Let Me Take You There (Demo) + You Got It All (Demo) + Luv The Hurt Away (Demo)

[Wendy Williams]

8 hours ago, CJMCH said:

I’m not bashing you, this was never about you. I was just telling Jonas that the edits are in fact in lower quality, thats it, thats my opinion and it wasn’t intented to ofend your work. If you like what you do, it’s ok, you can share it and spread it, but don’t call me delusional for stating my opinion and stating the obvious.

 

Sadly, some fans will actually fall for the edits and think that those are indeed real lossless rips and that’s when the confusion starts. As a fanbase, we have lost a lot of good stuff or original files because there’s always a “remaster” or “edit” and that is something we should avoid.

 

Believe me, when I like something and it’s done right, I’m very thankful, but don’t tell me to shut my mouth if I think something doesn’t work and, what’s worst, it claims to be something better than the original source when it’s not.

Idk how you but I hate if some recording is in shit quality with noise. The Owner should have ask some studio for clean all shit what ruins quality. Tbh if I had a chance win this auction, I wanted give tho cassette to the studio and totally repair whole audio quality to the best and share WAVs, instead of what shared that guy. He just wanted to be #1 about share, but doesnt care about care.

29 minutes ago, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

But haven't you posted Soundcloud rips rather than the owner's rips?

Sorry for the question... 

 

4 minutes ago, therealmgo said:

Only the Soundcloud rips are available right now. That's where the owner posted them.

= what I know is that I got soundcloud files from the owner (with noise & hum)....Everywhere else it's converted & etc.

[therealmgo]

2 minutes ago, ☆☆☆MikeCZ☆☆☆ said:

= what I know is that I got soundcloud files from the owner (with noise & hum)....Everywhere else it's converted & etc.

what??

[JonasSlave]

19 minutes ago, therealmgo said:

Only the Soundcloud rips are available right now. That's where the owner posted them.

The thing is everyone thought BO was going to wait till the owner gave them the original rips and post lossless files.

 

I can also claim that Mike has a new leak and pretend we did it in collaboration lmao

 

[Ricki Lake]

Yayyy finally!

 

Merry Britmas 

[Ricki Lake]

20 hours ago, CJMCH said:

The fact that is reencoded from a Soundcloud rip means its not real, the spectrum is a mess. You can easily add new data on it to make it look “lossless”, but that doesn’t mean the source is any better than a Soundcloud rip (even in lower quality than the ones posted by me).

I don’t remaster audios cuz if it’s not done using a proper lossless with proper remaster skills, it could result in low quality edits. 

 

About your edts, Let Me Take You There sounds filtered to give out an example, so no, I’m not delusional.

 

You're talking about audio sourced from a duped analog cassette. A lossless capture is not *that* important when the source is so noisy to begin with.

 

You can also capture a VHS tape in 8k lossless, doesn't mean it's any better than a lower resolution capture. The first rule of restoration is "garbage in = garbage out."

[Wendy Williams]

7 hours ago, therealmgo said:

what??

That CJ... told that elsewhere is stuff in better quality and soundcloud is in worse. But like if official first one leaked files are in soundcloud, so automatically are these files in the best quality every if they are source stuff for everything else..

[Wendy Williams]

On 7/10/2018 at 10:12 PM, HeadstrongWolf said:

:Moorangu: you're wasting energy trying to tell him the truth. 

[TokyoSoldier]

"Let Me Take You There" is giving me TLC/Spice Girls vibes I love it

From the sound of the "You Got It All" demo, it sounds like BOMT was probably supposed to be urban cause these songs sound very R&B

[Wendy Williams]

2 hours ago, TokyoSoldier said:

"Let Me Take You There" is giving me TLC/Spice Girls vibes I love it

From the sound of the "You Got It All" demo, it sounds like BOMT was probably supposed to be urban cause these songs sound very R&B

Me Mandy Moore vibes

[CJMCH]

On 7/11/2018 at 3:02 AM, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

But haven't you posted Soundcloud rips rather than the owner's rips?

Sorry for the question... 

The owner posted the audios on Soundcloud. He didn't send me the original files, but he wanted me to post the soundcloud links on my fansite as an exclusive.

On 7/11/2018 at 3:48 AM, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

The thing is everyone thought BO was going to wait till the owner gave them the original rips and post lossless files.

 

I can also claim that Mike has a new leak and pretend we did it in collaboration lmao

 

I wouldn't pretend something is not real. You can check out  the soundcloud link/user and it has Britney-Online.net all over the tracks' names and site description: https://soundcloud.com/user-765713611

On 7/11/2018 at 3:27 AM, therealmgo said:

Only the Soundcloud rips are available right now. That's where the owner posted them.

Yes.

On 7/11/2018 at 3:38 AM, ☆☆☆MikeCZ☆☆☆ said:

Idk how you but I hate if some recording is in shit quality with noise. The Owner should have ask some studio for clean all shit what ruins quality. Tbh if I had a chance win this auction, I wanted give tho cassette to the studio and totally repair whole audio quality to the best and share WAVs, instead of what shared that guy. He just wanted to be #1 about share, but doesnt care about care.

 

= what I know is that I got soundcloud files from the owner (with noise & hum)....Everywhere else it's converted & etc.

The owner posted them on Soundcloud for a reason, he's of course keeping his lossless rips for trading (he did two rips by the way, the ones he's keeping are cleaner and in better quality). Each cassette went for almost 2K dollars, 2 thousand dollars! Don't you think he has a right to maintain some sort of rare files for him? I mean, it's almost a miracle that he decided to share it with us, because I don't think the other 2 cassettes will leak anytime soon (hopefully I'm wrong and the owners decide to do it).

 

It's cool that you tried to fix them, but what I told Jonas is that, in my opinion, they do not sound better than the Soundcloud rips. Yes, they have noise reduction and the pitch was corrected, but the edit also sounds filtered to some extent, that's why I said that the Soundcloud rips are better, at least for me.

On 7/11/2018 at 9:12 AM, Ricki Lake said:

 

You're talking about audio sourced from a duped analog cassette. A lossless capture is not *that* important when the source is so noisy to begin with.

 

You can also capture a VHS tape in 8k lossless, doesn't mean it's any better than a lower resolution capture. The first rule of restoration is "garbage in = garbage out."

I know that. This rip might not sound that better even in WAV (the real WAVs, of course).

On 7/11/2018 at 11:27 AM, ☆☆☆MikeCZ☆☆☆ said:

That CJ... told that elsewhere is stuff in better quality and soundcloud is in worse. But like if official first one leaked files are in soundcloud, so automatically are these files in the best quality every if they are source stuff for everything else..

I didn't say that, what I said is that the only real rips are from Soundcloud and that your edits are done with them, hence why I don't think those are better.

 

[JonasSlave]

Long story short, SoundCloud rips are a good way to listening to these tapes, but the WAVs are an alternative. The end. 

I'm getting sick of this drama guys, I always want B-Armys to stay positive and I always encourage partnership in FB pages, but now all seems so competitive.

I knew the original Russian forum where the soundboard leaked and I didn't even claim it was an exclusive, because it wasn't. Some sound engineer share them innocently and then we sees his files shared all over internet.

What I mean is all of sites nowadays are about views and fame. Not about BRITNEY.

[CJMCH]

1 hour ago, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

Long story short, SoundCloud rips are a good way to listening to these tapes, but the WAVs are an alternative. The end. 

I'm getting sick of this drama guys, I always want B-Armys to stay positive and I always encourage partnership in FB pages, but now all seems so competitive.

I knew the original Russian forum where the soundboard leaked and I didn't even claim it was an exclusive, because it wasn't. Some sound engineer share them innocently and then we sees his files shared all over internet.

What I mean is all of sites nowadays are about views and fame. Not about BRITNEY.

I love being a source for Britney fans and I've been here since 2006 with OnlyBritney and now with Britney-Online (with Ismael) for the only purpose of giving the fans that: a good source, putting all my hard work on it. If I was doing it for the views and fame, I would be mad as hell for another brasilian site to get the same name as mine (which I'm not), just to give out an example.

 

What I don't like about this is when people label stuff as something that isn't, because lots of new fans or fans that doesn't know as much could get confused. I get it, Mike did the WAVs using the Soundcloud rips to clean up the demos, but the fact that he edited them doesn't mean they're lossless. When you are a source, you need to be careful with what you post and how you post it, because it's not only for you but for the rest of the fans. It IS a WAV, it IS cleaned up, it sounds cleaner so it IS a "remaster", all of this is ok and good for him, but it's not lossless, so don't claim it like it is.

 

I love partnerships too, I've been on it with BritneyBoards, BArmy Brasil (Britney Pulse), BDowns (until they closed) and lately BritneyOnlineBrasil, so it's really cool for me that fansites and Facebook pages are coming in full force, but lets be responsible with what we post. If not, we're turning into sites like "Fiebre Britney" which are known for post false information all the time.

 

This is my last post about this topic, because I really don't like being seeing as the "bad guy of the movie" when I'm not.

[Wendy Williams]

4 hours ago, CJMCH said:

 

Ok, sc files "sounds better" because noise make "better" quality, but without it this sounds like what I did. So in result it's not both of them better. Only CD track. But for listening with hum/noise is better mine. And my YGIA master sounds like CD quality.

[Nippi]

Honestly if Britney just put out an exclusive 20 year anniversary compilation of unreleased songs, this wouldn't be such a point of contention with fans. I would BUY an 8-12 track album of unreleased songs in a MILISECOND. Then we could all have the same songs. I really hate trading and wish there was a market for stems and outtakes. Labels would make alot of money.

[JonasSlave]

On 7/13/2018 at 9:05 PM, CJMCH said:

BDowns (until they closed)

Do you know why they've closed? I loved that website so much...

[JonasSlave]

18 hours ago, Nippi said:

Honestly if Britney just put out an exclusive 20 year anniversary compilation of unreleased songs, this wouldn't be such a point of contention with fans. I would BUY an 8-12 track album of unreleased songs in a MILISECOND. Then we could all have the same songs. I really hate trading and wish there was a market for stems and outtakes. Labels would make alot of money.

Same. I HATE TRADING, why people don't just leak the full things instead of keeping them to themselves lmao

[Nippi]

2 hours ago, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

Same. I HATE TRADING, why people don't just leak the full things instead of keeping them to themselves lmao

Not even that, but why don't traders share some of the exclusive content with the fans that WANT it? Fans that DEFINITELY would not leak and would enable them to trade with other Britney fans. That's the problem with "trading". It's an exclusive club and not many people are willing to give 

[CJMCH]

8 hours ago, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

Do you know why they've closed? I loved that website so much...

Their team got into an internal conflict and started to leave. The admin tried by himself but his team deleted all of the Mega accounts.

 

8 hours ago, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

Same. I HATE TRADING, why people don't just leak the full things instead of keeping them to themselves lmao

 

6 hours ago, Nippi said:

Not even that, but why don't traders share some of the exclusive content with the fans that WANT it? Fans that DEFINITELY would not leak and would enable them to trade with other Britney fans. That's the problem with "trading". It's an exclusive club and not many people are willing to give 

 

A lot of the stuff that has been traded cost a lot of money, like a LOT, hence why things are not supposed to leak until they get more, so they can get more in the future for the fans. That is how it used to work, but some things have changed...

 

The reason why things are not leaking like they’ve used to is because the latest source of it all (FF stems and some more) got ARRESTED, hence why the new sources are VERY careful with who they sell it to. This is a fact, not a rumor, that source was a very smart hacker but the leaks got investigated and the data led to him.

 

With this happening, people/traders who buy stuff agree to keep it to themselves or else they will lose the contact/source and could face some reports if they have a website/blog/sns. These sources are not Britney fans, they’re real insiders and/or hackers.

 

The people with the rarest media right now doesn’t trade at all, they buy everything they have at high prices to make sure everything is hush hush. Losing a contact right now is not a good idea, so their last thought would be trading with a Britney fan. This media will leak eventually, but it will take years. If what I’ve heard is true, it’s worth the wait.

[JonasSlave]

5 hours ago, CJMCH said:

The people with the rarest media right now doesn’t trade at all, they buy everything they have at high prices to make sure everything is hush hush. Losing a contact right now is not a good idea, so their last thought would be trading with a Britney fan. This media will leak eventually, but it will take years. If what I’ve heard is true, it’s worth the wait.

Sorry to ask, but you know what kind of stuff they have?

 

5 hours ago, CJMCH said:

Their team got into an internal conflict and started to leave. The admin tried by himself but his team deleted all of the Mega accounts.

 

OMG... I didn't know that... I loved that site so much... Back in 2016, when I started to make my digital collection, they had amazing things to DL....

[Nippi]

12 hours ago, CJMCH said:

A lot of the stuff that has been traded cost a lot of money, like a LOT, hence why things are not supposed to leak until they get more, so they can get more in the future for the fans. That is how it used to work, but some things have changed...

 

The reason why things are not leaking like they’ve used to is because the latest source of it all (FF stems and some more) got ARRESTED, hence why the new sources are VERY careful with who they sell it to. This is a fact, not a rumor, that source was a very smart hacker but the leaks got investigated and the data led to him.

 

With this happening, people/traders who buy stuff agree to keep it to themselves or else they will lose the contact/source and could face some reports if they have a website/blog/sns. These sources are not Britney fans, they’re real insiders and/or hackers.

 

The people with the rarest media right now doesn’t trade at all, they buy everything they have at high prices to make sure everything is hush hush. Losing a contact right now is not a good idea, so their last thought would be trading with a Britney fan. This media will leak eventually, but it will take years. If what I’ve heard is true, it’s worth the wait.

Wait, so most of the FF leaks were from a source that stole them? That makes total sense if they were stolen. Honestly charging people and PROFITING off of material that isn't yours is just more incriminating. I'm sure the source of those leaks was selling the material before it leaked.

 

I honestly hate the way record companies deal with this. They don't give superfans ANY access at all to any unreleased tracks or stems, and then punish people who leak them to fans. (At least it seems that way.)

 

I can understand the frustration when your new material leaks. It ruined the release of Madonna's Rebel Heart, and it probably suffered in sales because of it. It's completely understandable when it's new material. Labels, however, are missing out on a huge financial opportunity by barring the sale of stems and unreleased material. I mean, what are you seriously going to do with unreleased material and stems that are 10-20 years or more older now? All it's doing is sitting on a shelf or on a harddrive. Let's not forget that songwriters, producers, artists/musicians, studio time, engineers etc. all cost the label money. So why let that go to waste when there are fans that LOVE and want the unreleased material? Barbra Streisand did it with "Release Me" in 2012, and it has some great, memorable tracks on it, and plus, now you're getting revenue from that old, "wasted" material. With FLAC and lossless music nowadays, I'm starting not to care as much about physical releases, especially low-end ones, so that alone should save the label money.

 

Carly Rae Jepsen is another example, I RAN when I heard about Emotion Side B. I never bought something so fast in my life. Fans WANT to buy this material, and by allowing fans access to buy, they're reducing the risk of it showing up on file sharing sites and also reducing the risk of hackers trying to find unreleased material. There are so many bsides and hard to find tracks I would love to buy that have been released, but aren't available in my country, another thing I don't understand.

 

These sort of releases would not even need to cost much. They wouldn't have to spend anything promoting it aside from social media and a press release, because the fans will be the FIRST to know.

 

I just don't understand it. I'm an avid music / audiophile, and so many of us are inside these fan groups and love hearing instrumentals, acapellas, stems and more. Labels are missing out.

 

[Wendy Williams]

2 minutes ago, Nippi said:

Wait, so most of the FF leaks were from a source that stole them? That makes total sense if they were stolen. Honestly charging people and PROFITING off of material that isn't yours is just more incriminating. I'm sure the source of those leaks was selling the material before it leaked.

 

I honestly hate the way record companies deal with this. They don't give superfans ANY access at all to any unreleased tracks or stems, and then punish people who leak them to fans. (At least it seems that way.)

 

I can understand the frustration when your new material leaks. It ruined the release of Madonna's Rebel Heart, and it probably suffered in sales because of it. It's completely understandable when it's new material. Labels, however, are missing out on a huge financial opportunity by barring the sale of stems and unreleased material. I mean, what are you seriously going to do with unreleased material and stems that are 10-20 years or more older now? All it's doing is sitting on a shelf or on a harddrive. Let's not forget that songwriters, producers, artists/musicians, studio time, engineers etc. all cost the label money. So why let that go to waste when there are fans that LOVE and want the unreleased material? Barbra Streisand did it with "Release Me" in 2012, and it has some great, memorable tracks on it, and plus, now you're getting revenue from that old, "wasted" material. With FLAC and lossless music nowadays, I'm starting not to care as much about physical releases, especially low-end ones, so that alone should save the label money.

 

Carly Rae Jepsen is another example, I RAN when I heard about Emotion Side B. I never bought something so fast in my life. Fans WANT to buy this material, and by allowing fans access to buy, they're reducing the risk of it showing up on file sharing sites and also reducing the risk of hackers trying to find unreleased material. There are so many bsides and hard to find tracks I would love to buy that have been released, but aren't available in my country, another thing I don't understand.

 

These sort of releases would not even need to cost much. They wouldn't have to spend anything promoting it aside from social media and a press release, because the fans will be the FIRST to know.

 

I just don't understand it. I'm an avid music / audiophile, and so many of us are inside these fan groups and love hearing instrumentals, acapellas, stems and more. Labels are missing out.

 

Youre right about all, they want money but they are not doing anything for it. They want money, not happy fans 

 

Spoiler

Also - and I'm sorry for tbh - but Rebel Heart album or Carly Rae Jepsen talker are not worthy for money, RH included only 3 worthy tracks for listen, And Carly cant sing. 

 

[JonasSlave]

1 hour ago, ☆☆☆MikeCZ☆☆☆ said:

Youre right about all, they want money but they are not doing anything for it. They want money, not happy fans 

 

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Also - and I'm sorry for tbh - but Rebel Heart album or Carly Rae Jepsen talker are not worthy for money, RH included only 3 worthy tracks for listen, And Carly cant sing. 

 

How ironic, talking about someone who can sing... Have you realize who you're a fan to?

Carly is amazing, great compositions and lyrics and I love her 80s style. RH is actually bad, I only like Ghosttown, but even that song is boring.

[CJMCH]

13 hours ago, Jonαs ℓαmbert said:

Sorry to ask, but you know what kind of stuff they have?

 

OMG... I didn't know that... I loved that site so much... Back in 2016, when I started to make my digital collection, they had amazing things to DL....

A CD and several DVDs could be made with all of the stuff that's out there, that's all I'm going to say.

5 hours ago, Nippi said:

Wait, so most of the FF leaks were from a source that stole them? That makes total sense if they were stolen. Honestly charging people and PROFITING off of material that isn't yours is just more incriminating. I'm sure the source of those leaks was selling the material before it leaked.

 

I honestly hate the way record companies deal with this. They don't give superfans ANY access at all to any unreleased tracks or stems, and then punish people who leak them to fans. (At least it seems that way.)

 

I can understand the frustration when your new material leaks. It ruined the release of Madonna's Rebel Heart, and it probably suffered in sales because of it. It's completely understandable when it's new material. Labels, however, are missing out on a huge financial opportunity by barring the sale of stems and unreleased material. I mean, what are you seriously going to do with unreleased material and stems that are 10-20 years or more older now? All it's doing is sitting on a shelf or on a harddrive. Let's not forget that songwriters, producers, artists/musicians, studio time, engineers etc. all cost the label money. So why let that go to waste when there are fans that LOVE and want the unreleased material? Barbra Streisand did it with "Release Me" in 2012, and it has some great, memorable tracks on it, and plus, now you're getting revenue from that old, "wasted" material. With FLAC and lossless music nowadays, I'm starting not to care as much about physical releases, especially low-end ones, so that alone should save the label money.

 

Carly Rae Jepsen is another example, I RAN when I heard about Emotion Side B. I never bought something so fast in my life. Fans WANT to buy this material, and by allowing fans access to buy, they're reducing the risk of it showing up on file sharing sites and also reducing the risk of hackers trying to find unreleased material. There are so many bsides and hard to find tracks I would love to buy that have been released, but aren't available in my country, another thing I don't understand.

 

These sort of releases would not even need to cost much. They wouldn't have to spend anything promoting it aside from social media and a press release, because the fans will be the FIRST to know.

 

I just don't understand it. I'm an avid music / audiophile, and so many of us are inside these fan groups and love hearing instrumentals, acapellas, stems and more. Labels are missing out.

 

The idea is good but it's not as easy as you think it is. The labels can not just release that type of material as quick and fast as you type this reply. With Britney in particular, It's a lot of paper work, copyright and stuff, it's even more complicated.

 

And yeah, the hacker was selling the stems. Most of it leaked and that's how he got in trouble. Some FF tracks are still in private collections.

[Wendy Williams]

2 hours ago, CJMCH said:

A CD and several DVDs could be made with all of the stuff that's out there, that's all I'm going to say.

The idea is good but it's not as easy as you think it is. The labels can not just release that type of material as quick and fast as you type this reply. With Britney in particular, It's a lot of paper work, copyright and stuff, it's even more complicated.

 

And yeah, the hacker was selling the stems. Most of it leaked and that's how he got in trouble. Some FF tracks are still in private collections.

Why not? It can be like OneDrive/GDrive - paid access, And for unreleased all labels can make one common player for it.

[CJMCH]

51 minutes ago, ☆☆☆MikeCZ☆☆☆ said:

Why not? It can be like OneDrive/GDrive - paid access, And for unreleased all labels can make one common player for it.

If it was that east, believe me, we would have gotten it.