Why Can't You Guys Understand?

[MMbritbritFAN]

I don't ever write much because I mostly like to catch up on Britney News while im on the go, but I sometimes have to write something when I feel that some fans aren't really understanding why Britney Is where she is. So, im gonna try to explain without taking too much time.

 

1) The Onyx Hotel Tour was the last tour of Britney dancing In her prime. It was also when Britney suffered two knee injuries, one on stage, the other during the video shoot for Outrageous, thus cancelling the tour. Now, with what some might consider a bad knee, by some I mean insurance companies who finance her tours, that would mean no touring for Britney. The way to get around that? Less aggressive dance moves, proving to the company insuring the show she will be fine. M&M tour does not count because that was something small that Britney did on her own.

 

2) Circus and Femme Fatale were successful with promotion yet Britney Jean, though promoted, didn't have any live performances. Some people say her team was lazy. She was lazy. Well, look at Vegas as the real reason why that is. Actually look at Celine Dion's Vegas history and know she did NOT release one album between that time of 03-07, and her only televised performances were from Vegas. FOUR YEARS her fans went without new music and yet, they gained a Vegas Legend.

 

3) Lip syncing.....do we still have to argue on this one?!?!

 

4) The C-ship in many ways protects Britney, we don't know why but from the sounds of it she doesn't mind it. She never has to appear in court, her finances are protected, her father is in charge of the business all she does is give her stamp of approval, perform and be a mom. How do we know she doesn't like this set up?

 

lastly 5) Britney Spears is  a legend. The legacy is hers and no one can take that from her. Every current pop star names her as an influence. But, let the have their moment, cause Britney had hers and made the most of it. Britney understands that, why can't some of you?

 

[MaleFatale]

Spill the truth tea

[heather]

Flawfree post

[JoshLee]

I see no lies

[Babydoll]

Preach it Bb :cutelaugh:

[LiaLovesGodney]

I overall agree with what you say, but with regards to her dancing; those who critique Britney's dancing aren't asking for her to do harder moves that could engender another injury, but instead we are curious as to why she does not execute the moves she is given enthusiastically, fully, etc. This is mainly in response to her most lackluster performances from 2008 to now. In POM, she is doing very well compared to Femme Fatale and is getting better with each leg it seems. I won't comment further on this since I have been told that because I have not been to the show in person, my opinion is somehow invalid.

Britney is first and foremost a singer. She sings songs for a living. It is not so far-fetched to wish she would sing a least one line in a song live, or record pre-recorded vocals for songs she made in 1998.

How about we all just stop talking about the C-ship? None of us know how Britney feels about the c-ship or about it's specific details. (However, we are on a discussion forum and people are going to...well...discuss just about every aspect of Britney's life. To comment on a thread is done voluntarily, feel free to not comment if you are tired of talking about a certain topic.)

Britney Jean and Vegas are two mutually exclusive events. It was not so bad for a fan to wish that Britney would have taken the time to show some semblance of pride in her album and the residency. I personally didn't see a problem with Britney not doing a live performance--Vegas was the bigger deal in terms of career moves, but lack of promotion was definitely one of the reasons BJ did not do so well (among the other obvious reason that the music was just not of a high quality). And I'll argue that Celine Dion is a tad more respected as an artist, she doesn't have to worry about her latest albums or performances affecting ticket sales. To my knowledge, the majority of Celine's fans weren't disappointed by the last album she released or questioning if seeing her in concert was/is worth the money.

[Joanhs]

I don't ever write much because I mostly like to catch up on Britney News while im on the go, but I sometimes have to write something when I feel that some fans aren't really understanding why Britney Is where she is. So, im gonna try to explain without taking too much time.

 

1) The Onyx Hotel Tour was the last tour of Britney dancing In her prime. It was also when Britney suffered two knee injuries, one on stage, the other during the video shoot for Outrageous, thus cancelling the tour. Now, with what some might consider a bad knee, by some I mean insurance companies who finance her tours, that would mean no touring for Britney. The way to get around that? Less aggressive dance moves, proving to the company insuring the show she will be fine. M&M tour does not count because that was something small that Britney did on her own.

 

2) Circus and Femme Fatale were successful with promotion yet Britney Jean, though promoted, didn't have any live performances. Some people say her team was lazy. She was lazy. Well, look at Vegas as the real reason why that is. Actually look at Celine Dion's Vegas history and know she did NOT release one album between that time of 03-07, and her only televised performances were from Vegas. FOUR YEARS her fans went without new music and yet, they gained a Vegas Legend.

 

3) Lip syncing.....do we still have to argue on this one?!?!

 

4) The C-ship in many ways protects Britney, we don't know why but from the sounds of it she doesn't mind it. She never has to appear in court, her finances are protected, her father is in charge of the business all she does is give her stamp of approval, perform and be a mom. How do we know she doesn't like this set up?

 

lastly 5) Britney Spears is  a legend. The legacy is hers and no one can take that from her. Every current pop star names her as an influence. But, let the have their moment, cause Britney had hers and made the most of it. Britney understands that, why can't some of you?

It's so rare to find somebody with opinions like mine.. I salute you 

[britneystanstan]

Did someone hold a gun to their heads to release a shitty album while Vegas promo was happening?

[LiaLovesGodney]

Did someone hold a gun to their heads to release a shitty album while Vegas promo was happening?

Tbqfh

[Maria Spears]

I overall agree with what you say, but with regards to her dancing; those who critique Britney's dancing aren't asking for her to do harder moves that could engender another injury, but instead we are curious as to why she does not execute the moves she is given enthusiastically, fully, etc. This is mainly in response to her most lackluster performances from 2008 to now. In POM, she is doing very well compared to Femme Fatale and is getting better with each leg it seems. I won't comment further on this since I have been told that because I have not been to the show in person, my opinion is somehow invalid.

Britney is first and foremost a singer. She sings songs for a living. It is not so far-fetched to wish she would sing a least one line in a song live, or record pre-recorded vocals for songs she made in 1998.

How about we all just stop talking about the C-ship? None of us know how Britney feels about the c-ship or about it's specific details. (However, we are on a discussion forum and people are going to...well...discuss just about every aspect of Britney's life. To comment on a thread is done voluntarily, feel free to not comment if you are tired of talking about a certain topic.)

Britney Jean and Vegas are two mutually exclusive events. It was not so bad for a fan to wish that Britney would have taken the time to show some semblance of pride in her album and the residency. I personally didn't see a problem with Britney not doing a live performance--Vegas was the bigger deal in terms of career moves, but lack of promotion was definitely one of the reasons BJ did not do so well (among the other obvious reason that the music was just not of a high quality). And I'll argue that Celine Dion is a tad more respected as an artist, she doesn't have to worry about her latest albums or performances affecting ticket sales. To my knowledge, the majority of Celine's fans weren't disappointed by the last album she released or questioning if seeing her in concert was/is worth the money.

Amen sister. I'll just keep quoting everything you say because is flawfree and i agree 100%.

[LiaLovesGodney]

Amen sister. I'll just keep quoting everything you say because is flawfree and i agree 100%.

:kiss:

[MMbritbritFAN]

I overall agree with what you say, but with regards to her dancing; those who critique Britney's dancing aren't asking for her to do harder moves that could engender another injury, but instead we are curious as to why she does not execute the moves she is given enthusiastically, fully, etc. This is mainly in response to her most lackluster performances from 2008 to now. In POM, she is doing very well compared to Femme Fatale and is getting better with each leg it seems. I won't comment further on this since I have been told that because I have not been to the show in person, my opinion is somehow invalid.

Britney is first and foremost a singer. She sings songs for a living. It is not so far-fetched to wish she would sing a least one line in a song live, or record pre-recorded vocals for songs she made in 1998.

How about we all just stop talking about the C-ship? None of us know how Britney feels about the c-ship or about it's specific details. (However, we are on a discussion forum and people are going to...well...discuss just about every aspect of Britney's life. To comment on a thread is done voluntarily, feel free to not comment if you are tired of talking about a certain topic.)

Britney Jean and Vegas are two mutually exclusive events. It was not so bad for a fan to wish that Britney would have taken the time to show some semblance of pride in her album and the residency. I personally didn't see a problem with Britney not doing a live performance--Vegas was the bigger deal in terms of career moves, but lack of promotion was definitely one of the reasons BJ did not do so well (among the other obvious reason that the music was just not of a high quality). And I'll argue that Celine Dion is a tad more respected as an artist, she doesn't have to worry about her latest albums or performances affecting ticket sales. To my knowledge, the majority of Celine's fans weren't disappointed by the last album she released or questioning if seeing her in concert was/is worth the money.

[MMbritbritFAN]

^ i agree with you also, but consider maybe she at times half asses cause she herself feels watered down as a performer.like she might be bored doing 50% when she wants to do 100% but knows she really cant

[confidentnotcocky]

I get you point and accept what you say but I just think that there is blantant things that are a little off at times. I'm most mad that her visions keep getting changed, I think she has earned the right to that. Even with the less assertive dancing, and the and everything else the full potential for where she's at isn't being reached and Britney Jean really proved that, it was just insulting imo.

[MMbritbritFAN]

I get you point and accept what you say but I just think that there is blantant things that are a little off at times. I'm most mad that her visions keep getting changed, I think she has earned the right to that. Even with the less assertive dancing, and the and everything else the full potential for where she's at isn't being reached and Britney Jean really proved that, it was just insulting imo.

[MMbritbritFAN]

I get what your saying!

[LiaLovesGodney]

^ i agree with you also, but consider maybe she at times half asses cause she herself feels watered down as a performer.like she might be bored doing 50% when she wants to do 100% but knows she really cant

That definitely makes sense. I just want Britney to be completely happy with everything she does in terms of her career. I want to see her on stage and LOVE it. Heavy dancing, amazing live vocals, or not Britney should be feeling her best. I feel like a lot of the faults in her previous career moves would be fixed if she had the right people working for her and control over everything she does.

[tarotx]

Did someone hold a gun to their heads to release a shitty album while Vegas promo was happening?

Actually we have no idea what is in her contract. RCA Gets a piece of Vegas since they advertised it to heck and back on social media compared to BJ. Larry kept mentioning that they had to have the album out before Vegas. I think it might have been part of the deal tbh.

 

And BJ isn't shitty for a lot of people.

[gimmework]

I don't ever write much because I mostly like to catch up on Britney News while im on the go, but I sometimes have to write something when I feel that some fans aren't really understanding why Britney Is where she is. So, im gonna try to explain without taking too much time.

 

1) The Onyx Hotel Tour was the last tour of Britney dancing In her prime. It was also when Britney suffered two knee injuries, one on stage, the other during the video shoot for Outrageous, thus cancelling the tour. Now, with what some might consider a bad knee, by some I mean insurance companies who finance her tours, that would mean no touring for Britney. The way to get around that? Less aggressive dance moves, proving to the company insuring the show she will be fine. M&M tour does not count because that was something small that Britney did on her own.

 

2) Circus and Femme Fatale were successful with promotion yet Britney Jean, though promoted, didn't have any live performances. Some people say her team was lazy. She was lazy. Well, look at Vegas as the real reason why that is. Actually look at Celine Dion's Vegas history and know she did NOT release one album between that time of 03-07, and her only televised performances were from Vegas. FOUR YEARS her fans went without new music and yet, they gained a Vegas Legend.

 

3) Lip syncing.....do we still have to argue on this one?!?!

 

4) The C-ship in many ways protects Britney, we don't know why but from the sounds of it she doesn't mind it. She never has to appear in court, her finances are protected, her father is in charge of the business all she does is give her stamp of approval, perform and be a mom. How do we know she doesn't like this set up?

 

lastly 5) Britney Spears is  a legend. The legacy is hers and no one can take that from her. Every current pop star names her as an influence. But, let the have their moment, cause Britney had hers and made the most of it. Britney understands that, why can't some of you?

   Spill that tea honey!! 

 

I completely agree with this! Especially about the c-ship. I do think that the POM Vegas show is the best dancing and choreography we've seen since ONYX.

 

The only part of your tea I'm not sure about is whether it is the insurance companies or just Britney's team that doesn't want to risk another knee injury. I'm a little skeptical to think it's the insurance companies just because they insure athletes and performers that have had injuries all the time.  Janet and Micheal have had injuries and still got insured.. And Pink has had injuries with all of her much more dangerous than dancing aerobatics and has still been insured for years ... 

 

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks (especially since we've seen the EPIC Mannequin choreography) that Britney's team knows how legendary her dancing is and is waiting to bring it back until they feel her career needs a boost or until they feel the GP has lost interest. Which probably will never happen because she's THAT amazing! 

[tarotx]

Britney doesn't just have one Knee issue. She has had a bunch of them. But I think her issue with the Insurance company is that the 3 big knee injuries canceled appearances, a video already in progress and a whole leg of a tour. And then she had her public breakdown which is another strike the Insurance companies take into consideration.  I don't think the insurance companies dictate how she should perform but they make it clear what they won't pay for if something that is pre known happens again. IE: another knee injury to the same knee and a mental issue that stops a tour/Vegas. So it is Britney and team who chose to limit the risk during Circus. Britney had some issues during FF that they could not comment on because it would make people wonder about her ability to get the job done. It got so bad that they finally had Britney start mentioning her Anxiety but that was late 2012.  I do believe that one of the reasons Britney is still in the Conservatorship is to ward off worry about rather or not Britney will be physically &/or sane enough to finish her obligations. 

 

And I believe that All of that worry and people knowing her issues make Britney not easily able to relax into appearances and performances. She tells herself, others don't matter but she knows they are watching closely and judging harshly. Even fans. Which just sets off her Anxiety instead of forces her to get better. 

 

Britney's comfort level and rather or not she can reach inside and show confidence is the important thing for Britney to give a great performance. Her fans should know that by now. I just don't understand why we aren't showing love and encouraging her more. That is what will make Britney comfortable and confident. Imo.

 

The Fans can get her teams attention but even that is usually done in a @sshole way instead of a professional way. We are just a nasty harsh fan base. I hate us sometimes. 

[MMbritbritFAN]

Britney doesn't just have one Knee issue. She has had a bunch of them. But I think her issue with the Insurance company is that the 3 big knee injuries canceled appearances, a video already in progress and a whole leg of a tour. And then she had her public breakdown which is another strike the Insurance companies take into consideration. I don't think the insurance companies dictate how she should perform but they make it clear what they won't pay for if something that is pre known happens again. IE: another knee injury to the same knee and a mental issue that stops a tour/Vegas. So it is Britney and team who chose to limit the risk during Circus. Britney had some issues during FF that they could not comment on because it would make people wonder about her ability to get the job done. It got so bad that they finally had Britney start mentioning her Anxiety but that was late 2012. I do believe that one of the reasons Britney is still in the Conservatorship is to ward off worry about rather or not Britney will be physically &/or sane enough to finish her obligations.

And I believe that All of that worry and people knowing her issues make Britney not easily able to relax into appearances and performances. She tells herself, others don't matter but she knows they are watching closely and judging harshly. Even fans. Which just sets off her Anxiety instead of forces her to get better.

Britney's comfort level and rather or not she can reach inside and show confidence is the important thing for Britney to give a great performance. Her fans should know that by now. I just don't understand why we aren't showing love and encouraging her more. That is what will make Britney comfortable and confident. Imo.

The Fans can get her teams attention but even that is usually done in a @sshole way instead of a professional way. We are just a nasty harsh fan base. I hate us sometimes.

i agree but what i meant was yes in order to be insured She has had to water down her skills as a performer. No insurance means no vegas or touring and fans would be pissed if that happened

[tarotx]

i agree but what i meant was yes in order to be insured She has had to water down her skills as a performer. No insurance means no vegas or touring and fans would be pissed if that happened

I don't think to be insured enough to have a show she "Had" to water down.  I mean they didn't demand things she couldn't do. They would Just limit what they would pay for if something happens. Her and her team would just have to take some of the risk because the Insurance would have issue with a recurring injury. Britney and her team decided to wear the heels to look fierce but not have her dance as much. The Insurance company probably would take the heels away if they were making the decision. Britney and her team are the ones who are deciding on what to risk. Not having to dance as much also left Britney free from having to remember as much but also get bored at times. And It made it so Britney wasn't dancing as much. All of that pissed off a large Chuck of fans. And it also left Britney not dancing as much any where since she didn't have to dance as much for her career. So it meant that when she went to dance for FF her body was less able to get right back into it. Which made that time especially trying because they had rehired Brian who knew what Britney used to do at the snap of a finger. 

 

And I do think all of this needing to worry about staying healthy and sane keeps in it Britney's mind. She can't just let it not matter to her because a lot of people are being paid by her being able to perform.  And now she has to worry about cost because she might have to end up paying for it out of pocket. The Circus Tour had a sponsor that took some of the Risk but neither FF or Vegas had a Sponsor. So all of that is going around in Britney's head. When she should be just worried about giving the best show possible. Which is how it used to be for her. 

[britneystanstan]

I overall agree with what you say, but with regards to her dancing; those who critique Britney's dancing aren't asking for her to do harder moves that could engender another injury, but instead we are curious as to why she does not execute the moves she is given enthusiastically, fully, etc. This is mainly in response to her most lackluster performances from 2008 to now. In POM, she is doing very well compared to Femme Fatale and is getting better with each leg it seems. I won't comment further on this since I have been told that because I have not been to the show in person, my opinion is somehow invalid.

Britney is first and foremost a singer. She sings songs for a living. It is not so far-fetched to wish she would sing a least one line in a song live, or record pre-recorded vocals for songs she made in 1998.

How about we all just stop talking about the C-ship? None of us know how Britney feels about the c-ship or about it's specific details. (However, we are on a discussion forum and people are going to...well...discuss just about every aspect of Britney's life. To comment on a thread is done voluntarily, feel free to not comment if you are tired of talking about a certain topic.)

Britney Jean and Vegas are two mutually exclusive events. It was not so bad for a fan to wish that Britney would have taken the time to show some semblance of pride in her album and the residency. I personally didn't see a problem with Britney not doing a live performance--Vegas was the bigger deal in terms of career moves, but lack of promotion was definitely one of the reasons BJ did not do so well (among the other obvious reason that the music was just not of a high quality). And I'll argue that Celine Dion is a tad more respected as an artist, she doesn't have to worry about her latest albums or performances affecting ticket sales. To my knowledge, the majority of Celine's fans weren't disappointed by the last album she released or questioning if seeing her in concert was/is worth the money.

 

Mte and to add:

 

Celine isn't a tad more respected, she is infinitely more respected as an artist. She is a bigger legend than Britney.

 

What the OP neglected to mention was that Celine did a shitload of promo performances for her last album just a year before the Vegas residency. What did we get?

 

Britney fans wouldn't be as disappointed if she was slaying the eras before. But, we keep going back to the hope she will make a legitimate comeback and instead, an era with no promo and a terrible album is slapped in our faces.

 

If she's "not allowed" to dance, what exactly can she do? She can't sing, she can't pull as much energy or enthusiasm onstage, she doesn't connect with the audience. Why is her team still putting her out there to trample on the legacy she worked so hard on? She should offer something new, if she can't dance as much anymore.

[britneystanstan]

^ i agree with you also, but consider maybe she at times half asses cause she herself feels watered down as a performer.like she might be bored doing 50% when she wants to do 100% but knows she really cant

 

Why is she still performing then if she can't do it 100%?

[britneystanstan]

Actually we have no idea what is in her contract. RCA Gets a piece of Vegas since they advertised it to heck and back on social media compared to BJ. Larry kept mentioning that they had to have the album out before Vegas. I think it might have been part of the deal tbh.

 

And BJ isn't shitty for a lot of people.

 

Again, let's say Britney Jean isn't a shitty demo album. Did anyone hold a gun to their heads to release Britney Jean so close to Vegas, where she allegedly couldn't promote it?

 

Was it supposed to promote Vegas when majority of fans probably don't even know it exists?

 

Was it supposed to keep fans happy until her next album is released (which it evidently hasn't)?

 

Here is why. They didn't think well about it... both Britney and her team. Now, Britney has a certified flop album in her discography (since you guys like comparing her to Celine so much, check if ANY of her albums have flopped with the epic proportions Britney Jean has) and watch her fanbase shrink even more than it already has.