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As I said you don't know her contract and rather or not she had to release an album before Vegas. I'm not talking about her Vegas contract but her RCA one. It seems to me you just want to be an ass to Britney as always because you didn't like BJ or POM. You would rather she retire so that she can be remembered when she's dead. 100% or nothing.

Again, let's say Britney Jean isn't a shitty demo album. Did anyone hold a gun to their heads to release Britney Jean so close to Vegas, where she allegedly couldn't promote it? :britdrown:

 

Was it supposed to promote Vegas when majority of fans probably don't even know it exists?

 

Was it supposed to keep fans happy until her next album is released (which it evidently hasn't)?

 

Here is why. They didn't think well about it... both Britney and her team. Now, Britney has a certified flop album in her discography (since you guys like comparing her to Celine so much, check if ANY of her albums have flopped with the epic proportions Britney Jean has) and watch her fanbase shrink even more than it already has. 

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As I said you don't know her contract and rather or not she had to release an album before Vegas. I'm not talking about her Vegas contract but her RCA one. It seems to me you just want to be an ass to Britney as always because you didn't like BJ or POM. You would rather she retire so that she can be remembered when she's dead. 100% or nothing.

 

The fact fans can't expect that anymore :britdrown:

 

So they're signing contracts left and right until they reach a dead end and end up being forced to shove out material prematurely? Again, something wrong with her or her team or both. Are they robots incapable of a concept called negotiations or forward planning?

 

No, I feel like fans have been giving way too many excuses for Britney and her team for the past few years now. :gloria: It's becoming really sad.

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we all have to accept it... THIS

 

will never ever happen again.... and please don´t tell me britney is a shy person and not made for this industry.......... then please tell who is that in the video????  :zoomzoom:

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Britney is giving what she can. That is her 100% now. It's just not what a chuck of old Fans want from her. I don't mean she's not giving her all. She may never be 100% back.

 

And I don't see anything wrong with Britney signing Contracts that make her tours&shows have to be leaked to an album so that the Record company gets their money. This is an an age where Records don't sell close to the amount they used to. For most artist any way.

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Britney is giving what she can. That is her 100% now. It's just not what a chuck of old Fans want from her. I don't mean she's not giving her all. She may never be 100% back.

 

And I don't see anything wrong with Britney signing Contracts that make her tours&shows have to be leaked to an album so that the Record company gets their money. This is an an age where Records don't sell close to the amount they used. For most artist any way.

thats what i am thinking of her right now. media has destroyed her so much.... call me a bad fan but sometimes i think this is not the same person like ten years ago..  :crying1:

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Britney used to not worry about what others thought of her but the more she learned the more she was forced too. She isn't made for the industry of today. It broke her. Before tabloid media sky rocketed and the internet exploded Britney could just worry about her performance. The large in your face negativity is what she couldn't handle. She has the talent-the star power. It's about rather or not she can let it go so that she can just be in her performances. The fans used to be a go to when she needed encouragement. Now they are just another thing that stops her from being able to relax. 

we all have to accept it... THIS

 

will never ever happen again.... and please don´t tell me britney is a shy person and not made for this industry.......... then please tell who is that in the video????  :zoomzoom:

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Britney used to not worry about what others thought of her but the more she learned the more she was forced too. She isn't made for the industry of today. It broke her. Before tabloid media sky rocketed and the internet exploded Britney could just worry about her performance. The large in your face negativity is what she couldn't handle. She has the talent-the star power. It's about rather or not she can let it go so that she can just be in her performances. The fans used to be a go to when she needed encouragement. Now they are just another thing that stops her from being able to relax. 

i think the fans just want to see her one more time dancing and "acting" like her prime time. but i think for her this time is over and will never come back. i would like to know if britney really wanted to do  vegas... 

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i think the fans just want to see her one more time dancing and "acting" like her prime time. but i think for her this time is over and will never come back. i would like to know if britney really wanted to do  vegas... 

britney wanted to have a vegas residency ever since she settled down and started having children. it's something she's talked about before, and i believe vegas is the one thing she was 100% involved in and wanted since blackout/her breakdown

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britney wanted to have a vegas residency ever since she settled down and started having children. it's something she's talked about before, and i believe vegas is the one thing she was 100% involved in and wanted since blackout/her breakdown

ok if she really wanted to do it, then i would like to see more like bti/pom/matm and not like womanizer/cirucs. i really enjoy the whole matm performance a lot. it comes close to her prime i think...

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ok if she really wanted to do it, then i would like to see more like bti/pom/matm and not like womanizer/cirucs. i really enjoy the whole matm performance a lot. it comes close to her prime i think...

i definitely think the show could be reworked and there's a few numbers that are just bad choreography wise, but as a whole i enjoy vegas more than anything else post breakdown

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Mte and to add:

Celine isn't a tad more respected, she is infinitely more respected as an artist. She is a bigger legend than Britney.

What the OP neglected to mention was that Celine did a shitload of promo performances for her last album just a year before the Vegas residency. What did we get? :zoomzoom:

Britney fans wouldn't be as disappointed if she was slaying the eras before. But, we keep going back to the hope she will make a legitimate comeback and instead, an era with no promo and a terrible album is slapped in our faces.

If she's "not allowed" to dance, what exactly can she do? She can't sing, she can't pull as much energy or enthusiasm onstage, she doesn't connect with the audience. Why is her team still putting her out there to trample on the legacy she worked so hard on? She should offer something new, if she can't dance as much anymore.

Lol I know Celine is extremely more respected. I was being sarcastic and a bit cheeky.

And yes to everything else you said. Britney has not done anything remarkable performance-wise since 2004, excluding a few great moments during Circus. Her greatness is being forgotten.

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You're actually wrong! Celine released Taking Chances in 2007 and she promo-d the fuck out of it. She did the X Factor UK AND An Audience with Celine Dion in the UK alone. Plus she did Ellen and all of the other big shows in the US, this was all whilst Vegas was still going on. No excuses please...

agree. No excuses Britney :moorangu:
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You're actually wrong! Celine released Taking Chances in 2007 and she promo-d the fuck out of it. She did the X Factor UK AND An Audience with Celine Dion in the UK alone. Plus she did Ellen and all of the other big shows in the US, this was all whilst Vegas was still going on. No excuses please...

if you actually read what i said i wrote BETWEEN 03-07
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Ok, since some might not understand what i said, yes, Celine Dion did promote her album and did live performances but that was after her FIRST residency  A NEW DAY which ran from 03-07, BETWEEN those years she only performed in Vegas. The dancing thing is a a legit reason why her performing has been watered down because Britney would not be insured for the show if she broke something or was severely injured, also if most of you know Britney had to be approved by a judge because of her conservatorship to do vegas, so add that step in there. Nerver said she was not allowed to dance, just said she can't go full out anymore. She's dancing and while some days are questionable, she is dancing! And one last thing, She is Britney Spears yes, but some of you are still in love with a fresh faced sixteen year old budding popstar who is now a thirty-two year old pop legend and also, mother. Her life is now being lived for her not anyone else. Some of you need to get past that this is where she is now and you can whine and moan and degrade her all you want but that won't change a thing. Her Legacy belongs to no one but Her. As a fan, yes you want to see her do her all but considering her history, some of you want Pre-meltdown Britney back and guess what, she ain't coming back!!!! Now the half assing of shows, ok critique as you wish. But, to say she will be forgotten? The GP picks a new top pop star every damn year, Britney reigned longer than that, did more and sold more, but if she is forgotten, it won't be by her fans. BTW, some of you call her management controlling, pleeeeeaaasssee!!!! Britney rather have them then some of you manage her cause your thoughts on her career and future are controlling!

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we all have to accept it... THIS

 

will never ever happen again.... and please don´t tell me britney is a shy person and not made for this industry.......... then please tell who is that in the video????  :zoomzoom:

 

This :gloria:

Enough of this "Britney is an innocent Southern Belle unaware of her fame and power" nonsense. You can say that about now since she has regressed, but no, Britney in her prime was FAR from that.

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Britney is giving what she can. That is her 100% now. It's just not what a chuck of old Fans want from her. I don't mean she's not giving her all. She may never be 100% back.

 

And I don't see anything wrong with Britney signing Contracts that make her tours&shows have to be leaked to an album so that the Record company gets their money. This is an an age where Records don't sell close to the amount they used to. For most artist any way.

 

Meanwhile, Taylor Swift and Beyonce sell more on their debut weeks than Britney Jean's entire run. :zoomzoom: 

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Meanwhile, Taylor Swift and Beyonce sell more on their debut weeks than Britney Jean's entire run. :zoomzoom:

 

yet they've done nothing for pop culture

 

britney's never been a #1 selling artist (besides albums), her biggest singles didn't even chart that high yet they've impacted pop music and started trends

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yet they've done nothing for pop culture

 

britney's never been a #1 selling artist (besides albums), her biggest singles didn't even chart that high yet they've impacted pop music and started trends

 

Beyonce is doing a lot now. :yaknow:

 

I'm just pointing out it's an excuse that albums don't sell anymore when other artists (the biggest ones, anyway) still manage to sell a lot.

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we all have to accept it... THIS

will never ever happen again.... and please don´t tell me britney is a shy person and not made for this industry.......... then please tell who is that in the video???? :zoomzoom:

a young women before a mental breaksown???????????
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Beyonce is doing a lot now. :yaknow:

 

I'm just pointing out it's an excuse that albums don't sell anymore when other artists (the biggest ones, anyway) still manage to sell a lot.

Whatever. What I said wasn't about Britney not selling albums. It was about the Record company signing deals that link albums and tours so that they make money from an era. 

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:bow: to the OP i love your post

 

 

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I overall agree with what you say, but with regards to her dancing; those who critique Britney's dancing aren't asking for her to do harder moves that could engender another injury, but instead we are curious as to why she does not execute the moves she is given enthusiastically, fully, etc. This is mainly in response to her most lackluster performances from 2008 to now. In POM, she is doing very well compared to Femme Fatale and is getting better with each leg it seems. I won't comment further on this since I have been told that because I have not been to the show in person, my opinion is somehow invalid.

Britney is first and foremost a singer. She sings songs for a living. It is not so far-fetched to wish she would sing a least one line in a song live, or record pre-recorded vocals for songs she made in 1998.

How about we all just stop talking about the C-ship? None of us know how Britney feels about the c-ship or about it's specific details. (However, we are on a discussion forum and people are going to...well...discuss just about every aspect of Britney's life. To comment on a thread is done voluntarily, feel free to not comment if you are tired of talking about a certain topic.)

Britney Jean and Vegas are two mutually exclusive events. It was not so bad for a fan to wish that Britney would have taken the time to show some semblance of pride in her album and the residency. I personally didn't see a problem with Britney not doing a live performance--Vegas was the bigger deal in terms of career moves, but lack of promotion was definitely one of the reasons BJ did not do so well (among the other obvious reason that the music was just not of a high quality). And I'll argue that Celine Dion is a tad more respected as an artist, she doesn't have to worry about her latest albums or performances affecting ticket sales. To my knowledge, the majority of Celine's fans weren't disappointed by the last album she released or questioning if seeing her in concert was/is worth the money.

 

while i don't necessarily agree with everything here i think this is one of the most eloquent, thought out & respectful responses

 

This is what a forum should look like - intelligent discussion or even silly discussions, but well thought out & respectful with no need for bashing or belittling Britney 

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I don't ever write much because I mostly like to catch up on Britney News while im on the go, but I sometimes have to write something when I feel that some fans aren't really understanding why Britney Is where she is. So, im gonna try to explain without taking too much time.

1) The Onyx Hotel Tour was the last tour of Britney dancing In her prime. It was also when Britney suffered two knee injuries, one on stage, the other during the video shoot for Outrageous, thus cancelling the tour. Now, with what some might consider a bad knee, by some I mean insurance companies who finance her tours, that would mean no touring for Britney. The way to get around that? Less aggressive dance moves, proving to the company insuring the show she will be fine. M&M tour does not count because that was something small that Britney did on her own.

2) Circus and Femme Fatale were successful with promotion yet Britney Jean, though promoted, didn't have any live performances. Some people say her team was lazy. She was lazy. Well, look at Vegas as the real reason why that is. Actually look at Celine Dion's Vegas history and know she did NOT release one album between that time of 03-07, and her only televised performances were from Vegas. FOUR YEARS her fans went without new music and yet, they gained a Vegas Legend.

3) Lip syncing.....do we still have to argue on this one?!?!

4) The C-ship in many ways protects Britney, we don't know why but from the sounds of it she doesn't mind it. She never has to appear in court, her finances are protected, her father is in charge of the business all she does is give her stamp of approval, perform and be a mom. How do we know she doesn't like this set up?

lastly 5) Britney Spears is a legend. The legacy is hers and no one can take that from her. Every current pop star names her as an influence. But, let the have their moment, cause Britney had hers and made the most of it. Britney understands that, why can't some of you?

#logic

:sipstea:

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Again, let's say Britney Jean isn't a shitty demo album. Did anyone hold a gun to their heads to release Britney Jean so close to Vegas, where she allegedly couldn't promote it? :britdrown:

Was it supposed to promote Vegas when majority of fans probably don't even know it exists?

Was it supposed to keep fans happy until her next album is released (which it evidently hasn't)?

Here is why. They didn't think well about it... both Britney and her team. Now, Britney has a certified flop album in her discography (since you guys like comparing her to Celine so much, check if ANY of her albums have flopped with the epic proportions Britney Jean has) and watch her fanbase shrink even more than it already has.

:britdrown:

Also true :reductive:

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