Maybe The Moroder Situation Should Make Us Realize Something About Will.i.am.

[tarotx]

Actually you might have a point to a degree when you are comparing the siturations. But not in a way that should leave a negative opinion about Britney. Britney's career is hers and she has the right to work in a atmosphere that is right for her.

Britney's time is managed because she has a lot of fronts-music, business and family. But also perhaps to keep her stress level down. Stress seems to be an anxiety trigger for Britney. So when she is working she is focused on the job and moves it along as a professional.

When Will's album was released and then flopped he had work on his own career as well as be out of the country a lot. So Britney was left working with Will's minions. And I'm not sure Britney was ever really comfortable enough to engage the people she was working with. So there wasn't a lot of give and take within the studio time. It was discussed outside of it. Probably from both Britney to Will and then to his minions as well as from Britney to management to the minions.

And imo BJ's real issue is that the people making the songs didn't care enough about Britney to use her voice even though we have better takes. They used the takes most easily mixed with Myah, Sia, Anna and others. Then they did a rushed job because they don't know how to work fast. Sometimes albums should be pushed back. Or made into EP's So more time can be spent on each song that makes the album.

As for as Britney Jean, there is a reason a lot of us fans like the raw acoustic remixes better than the album. The remixers made a point to showcase Britney's voice and cared for their own craft.

[Miss Bad Media Karma]

Ouch... so they just replaced her voice?

Actually

Toxic 5.1 stems

[Maria Spears]

I know that my comment is a little bit off topic but im kind of tired of people and their theories of Britney Jean putting Wil.i.am and her label as the blame. Those reports that she wanted another direction for the album were just rumours by an user in exhale that got blown out of proportion. Maybe SHE wanted the album exactly as we got it. Maybe the Myah thing was because (as a lot of people suspect) she can't hit those high notes anymore. I believed that Wil.i.am fucked BJ (like most of you) but honestly...the more i think about it..i don't know if i believe that a superstar with 16 years of experience, more than 100million albums sold, a grammy and with an album inthe hall of fame, the only one that was produced by her i may add, can't have an OPINION in her OWN album. Conservatorship or not.. She is not a prisioner and there are many artists (like Demi Lovato) with mental illness that are in charge of their careers so i refuse to believe that.

[TheCharmedTributes1]

Oh that's cool, i don't remember that , do you know where he said it ??

So yeah, in this case i believe that's what Moroder meant when he said she recorded it fast.

I don't really remember which interview exactly was about S&S, but he talked a lot about working with Brit on BJ here (around 16:30):

[Guest Lᴜᴠ3�ɪ♥Hᴀᴛᴇ�ɪ]

It was most likely not his fault.

How are you going to come up with a decent song if the artist isn't even going to be present when you want to improve on it?

The deterioration of Britney's music most likely has to do with her and/or team's work ethic now.

We can use will.i.am as the fall guy for BJ all we want, but if the new album is just as bad, it'll confirm just where the problem really lies. :Scooterney:

Britney works fast and professionally like will.i.am said, she gets her work done unlike other artist who just sit they and waste money while they text and play on their phones.

It's already confirmed that will is the problem because the songs he didn't make on BJ are the best and have you listened to his current music? it's terrible

[Nathan]

Actually

Toxic 5.1 stems

Can't watch it :/

[M.E.]

Britney didn't even sing half of Toxic... so...

I don't know why people keep saying this because it's complete bullshit.

[britneystanstan]

Well, the song isn't even finished, what would you want him to talk about ? I'm sure he didn't even want to talk about her in the first place, it's not a coincidence if Britney didn't mention it either. It's not finished. The guy won't talk about it for hours and like it was wonderful while it's not even finished and who knows if it will really end up on his album if they have no time to finish it, he could reject it.

And because she works fast doesn't mean it's badly done or anything. I don't know why but when Britney comes to a studio i imagine her just being professional, in a way that she's there to record, not to have fun, talk or something. Hence why she may record "relatively fast". Then, we don't know what happened during BJ, i believe Britney didn't have a lot of time, everything was rushed because of Vegas, but producers didn't do their best work either, the vocal production isn't great, and we heard some Britney parts on Passenger that didn't even end up on the album version while imo it was great and better,.. who knows if they replaced her voice on other songs too while she really recorded it and it was better.

Anyway, this collab is not the same situation, we can't associate BJ with this collab.

The meltdowns if her collab doesn't end up on the album.

Again, with Moroder, she could've at least stayed a week or two in Europe to wait for the song to be perfected because they already know how difficult it'll be to get her back there in the future. They can't just have Britney to be there one day, rush the producers, then expect them to create a great song. We know Britney has kids now, but if she were going to do a song, she/her team should've allocated enough time to be there until it was perfected. Just speculating that this is what most likely happened

I guess I'm just speaking from experience working in creatives, where unlike Finance, operations, etc that it isn't a 9-5 job. It's not a very concise art, where you immediately get the right formula for a good song right away. Chatting with producers might actually help sometimes because from there, good ideas might come out.

I truly hope Britney is efficient instead of "fast". They weren't as "pressed for time" for this new album because I don't see any good excuse for it not to be good this time around tbh.

[britneystanstan]

Britney works fast and professionally like will.i.am said, she gets her work done unlike other artist who just sit they and waste money while they text and play on their phones.

It's already confirmed that will is the problem because the songs he didn't make on BJ are the best and have you listened to his current music? it's terrible

To be fair, most of his recent work was better than Britney Jean, although still shit.

[Guest Lᴜᴠ3�ɪ♥Hᴀᴛᴇ�ɪ]

To be fair, most of his recent work was better than Britney Jean, although still shit.

no it isn't better

but ok

[britneystanstan]

She didn't even record most of Blackout in 2007 bb :Scooterney:

Idk how this got a lot of negative votes?

She didn't record most of Blackout in 2007, as far as I know, she only recorded Hot As Ice and some other song. Did Britards assume I was saying she had Myah as early as then?

[LiaLovesGodney]

Idk how this got a lot of negative votes?

She didn't record most of Blackout in 2007, as far as I know, she only recorded Hot As Ice and some other song. Did Britards assume I was saying she had Myah as early as then?

Guess they don't know she recorded most of it in 2006.

Some of these fans....I swear.....

[Mr.Photographer]

I dont get it...Moroder said NOTHING negative of any nature regarding the unfinished track nor did he mention any kind of poor work ethic from Britney (As if any one can in the first place) But he did mention her schedule conflicts & she's a busy girl...like what are you saying

[killthelights]

I def don't think she's lazy and uncaring. I think she is absolutely a professional - more so than a lot of artists. It's just the execution of that work that is lackluster. She cares about her craft but it's not her fault that he is having trouble contacting her - that's her managements job to screen calls.

[britneystanstan]

Guess they don't know she recorded most of it in 2006.

Some of these fans....I swear.....

They probably think "Britney's always been like this, we just like the past more cause of nostalgia!"

For what it's worth, I hope it's true Britney herself reached out because it would show she's at least asserting control over her recent work. I just hope the logistics won't be as messy for Album 9.

[tonyfan]

Has it been confirmed? Did Brit get another recording contract? What label?

Ever notice how many threads try to say Brit is not to blame for x, y, or z? What is really going on?

[britneymatangi]

this thread makes me sad.

[LiaLovesGodney]

They probably think "Britney's always been like this, we just like the past more cause of nostalgia!"

For what it's worth, I hope it's true Britney herself reached out because it would show she's at least asserting control over her recent work. I just hope the logistics won't be as messy for Album 9.

This sounds harsh, but I personally can't imagine becoming a fan any time after Circus era. I just....can't. Current Britney is and has been about 30-50% of what she used to be.

[Joanhs]

Uhm, I'm sure Will.I.Am is just as pissed as Moroder for Britney not helping out with the promotion of Scream and Shout and a lot of other things, and he is not her manager, so why blame him for no promotion?? That is weird!

[ste_shango]

I think it's pretty simple... Britney didn't give a shit about seriously recording an album and they needed more time. They couldn't wait because of the residency and they threw in a bunch of halfassed demo (please, don't tell me Alien sounds like a finished song) half sung by Myah.

It's very simple and clear.

Maybe the "hip-hop" material was rejected because they wanted to save it for the next record or it was rejected because it simply SUCKED.

I don't want to defend Will.I.Am, but I don't think Britney committed herself for this shitty mess

[howwasisupposetoknow]

I think it's pretty simple... Britney didn't give a shit about seriously recording an album and they needed more time. They couldn't wait because of the residency and they threw in a bunch of halfassed demo (please, don't tell me Alien sounds like a finished song) half sung by Myah.

It's very simple and clear.

Maybe the "hip-hop" material was rejected because they wanted to save it for the next record or it was rejected because it simply SUCKED.

I don't want to defend Will.I.Am, but I don't think Britney committed herself for this shitty mess

i actually agree with you somewhat. I believe Britney didn't want to do this album, she wanted to do Vegas. But RCA didn't want to wait three years for her last album under her old contract.