Janelle Monae's Electric Lady Is The Kind Of Dance Music Britney Should Be Doing

[britneystanstan]

The song is boring Everyone you say Britney should take "notes" are from artist no one talks about if she did a song like this it would flop harder than BJ I mean still get more views than Janelle because it is Britney Spears but still flop It's pretty clear what direction Britney needs to go in, I guess you just can't see it

Even most kpop artists are more popular and successful than Janelle

What are you talking about? Who appreciates Britney Jean here???

It is pretty clear Britney is stuck with music that would've been cool 10 years ago. She has grown, but the music hasn't grown with her. Flop harder than BJ? It has that throwback sound that is "in" right now without being too reductive. Reminds me of when there used to be a thread on Exhell about Britney going a Daft Punk direction and the Britards hated on it... Get Lucky smashed a few months later and Random Access Memories and won a Grammy.

We weren't talking about success though, we were talking about Janelle's artistry. Should I say that Britney should take notes from Katy Perry then?

Funny enough, we are at that stage where Britney's music is shit AND no one cares about it so might as well improve one aspect since we'll never get both

[britneystanstan]

Honestly I don't get why the feud still last between the hive and the b-army, but the hive gets just as riled up when you mention Britney. They become pressed because they know Britney is 10x more influential Britney army becomes riled up because Beyonce has copied Britney

So it's both fandoms not just the b army

When has Bey copied Britney? Those cute, little outfit similarities? That short Slave-esque routine? Maybe I should pull a case for Britney copying Bey with the desert scene in Work Bitch.

Bey is just as influential as Britney, let's not. When you have the likes of Adele and Rihanna citing her PLUS her slayage of album sales and media presence... Not to mention she remains an incredible performer and dedicated artist.

Maybe they're pressed about Bey's overall sales success, but that barely matters in the long run.

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It is pretty clear Britney is stuck with music that would've been cool 10 years ago. She has grown, but the music hasn't grown with her. Flop harder than BJ? It has that throwback sound that is "in" right now without being too reductive. Reminds me of when there used to be a thread on Exhell about Britney going a Daft Punk direction and the Britards hated on it... Get Lucky smashed a few months later and Random Access Memories and won a Grammy.

We weren't talking about success though, we were talking about Janelle's artistry. Should I say that Britney should take notes from Katy Perry then?

Funny enough, we are at that stage where Britney's music is shit AND no one cares about it so might as well improve one aspect since we'll never get both

"STUCK with music that would've been cool 10 years ago" it was ONE album with some songs that are not dated. Yea you would have a reason to say that if B9 sounds like BJ, but not when BJ was her only album that sounds somewhat outdated and when she had a huge hit S&S right before

The song is boring so yea she'd be better off taking notes from katy perry's music dark horse>>>>> not that I would want that, but it's better than that song lol

"Britney's music is shit" then you post a boring af song when work bxxch is 10x better and I don't even luv3 britney jean Stop saying "Britney's music is shit" NO Britney Jean is mediocre or "shit" to some people

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When has Bey copied Britney? Those cute, little outfit similarities? That short Slave-esque routine? Maybe I should pull a case for Britney copying Bey with the desert scene in Work Bitch.

Bey is just as influential as Britney, let's not. When you have the likes of Adele and Rihanna citing her PLUS her slayage of album sales and media presence... Not to mention she remains an incredible performer and dedicated artist.

Maybe they're pressed about Bey's overall sales success, but that barely matters in the long run.

Yea those outfits and performances but I really don't care about those, I'm just saying why the b-army thinks she's unoriginal

No she's not and it's actually pretty obvious Britney is more influential. All over the world Britney has influenced people, almost EVERY artist mentions Britney as their inspiration and also mention she's the most humble person they ever met. She actually has ICONIC moments that people still copy till this day

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When has Bey copied Britney? Those cute, little outfit similarities? That short Slave-esque routine? Maybe I should pull a case for Britney copying Bey with the desert scene in Work Bitch.

Bey is just as influential as Britney, let's not. When you have the likes of Adele and Rihanna citing her PLUS her slayage of album sales and media presence... Not to mention she remains an incredible performer and dedicated artist.

Maybe they're pressed about Bey's overall sales success, but that barely matters in the long run.

also Britney's album as a whole sold more than all of Beyonce's

[britneystanstan]

"STUCK with music that would've been cool 10 years ago" it was ONE album with some songs that are not dated. Yea you would have a reason to say that if B9 sounds like BJ, but not when BJ was her only album that sounds somewhat outdated and when she had a huge hit S&S right before

The song is boring so yea she'd be better off taking notes from katy perry's music dark horse>>>>> not that I would want that, but it's better than that song lol

"Britney's music is shit" then you post a boring af song when work bxxch is 10x better and I don't even luv3 britney jean Stop saying "Britney's music is shit" NO Britney Jean is mediocre or "shit" to some people

Dark Horse? Work Bitch? :orangu: Tragic. Won't even respond to that.

I'm surprised people still have any expectations for this B9. What makes you think it'll be any different, given she is working with Iggy and wants to work with Katy Perry?

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Dark Horse? Work Bitch? :orangu: Tragic. Won't even respond to that.

I'm surprised people still have any expectations for this B9. What makes you think it'll be any different, given she is working with Iggy and wants to work with Katy Perry?

yea don't because that song is boring as hell

At this point you're not giving a reasonable opinion on why B9 would suck. BJ was executive produced by Will.i.am, it'll be different because she's not working with him. Every Britney album is different, it was ONE album I can't stress that anymore. Let alone, I definitely know B9 will at least sound different because BJ literally sounds like it has Will.i.am written all over it

[britneystanstan]

Yea those outfits and performances but I really don't care about those, I'm just saying why the b-army thinks she's unoriginal

No she's not and it's actually pretty obvious Britney is more influential. All over the world Britney has influenced people, almost EVERY artist mentions Britney as their inspiration and also mention she's the most humble person they ever met. She actually has ICONIC moments that people still copy till this day

Which is fucking rich because most of Britney's early work and even some till now has a lot of "redos" of Janet's style. Nothing is original in pop music.

Pretty obvious? All I see are the biggest stars of this generation ALWAYS crediting Bey. You hear her songs covered on talent shows. You see her performances being copied. The new generation is buying her albums, listening through her discography on Spotify, watching her videos on YouTube and STILL buying her songs and catalog sales.

Beyonce stole the VMAs 2011 show, done the Super Bowl, released a record-breaking album WITHOUT PROMO.

Anyway, this wasn't about Queen Bey, but about Britney's music so this will be the last I will say about Beyonce here.

[britneystanstan]

yea don't because that song is boring as hell

At this point you're not giving a reasonable opinion on why B9 would suck. BJ was executive produced by Will.i.am, it'll be different because she's not working with him. Every Britney album is different, it was ONE album I can't stress that anymore. Let alone, I definitely know B9 will at least sound different because BJ literally sounds like it has Will.i.am written all over it

Simply embarrassing. My "Body Ache-worshippers" comment is most relevant here.

She gets worse every era, let's leave it at that. She shows no enthusiasm in her work. Iggy and Katy Perry are merely warning signs.

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Which is fucking rich because most of Britney's early work and even some till now has a lot of "redos" of Janet's style. Nothing is original in pop music.

Pretty obvious? All I see are the biggest stars of this generation ALWAYS crediting Bey. You hear her songs covered on talent shows. You see her performances being copied. The new generation is buying her albums, listening through her discography on Spotify, watching her videos on YouTube and STILL buying her songs and catalog sales.

Beyonce stole the VMAs 2011 show, done the Super Bowl, released a record-breaking album WITHOUT PROMO.

Anyway, this wasn't about Queen Bey, but about Britney's music so this will be the last I will say about Beyonce here.

People cover adele's song, ariana's songs, mariah's song because they're specialty is SINGING. I'm pretty sure there's more people covering Ariana's song rn than Britney's but that doesn't mean Ariana is more influential

"The new generation is buying her albums, listening through her discography on Spotify, watching her videos on YouTube and STILL buying her songs and catalog sales." Yea they're doing the same thing with Taylor Swift and Katy Perry too, we're talking about INFLUENTIAL here not popularity

Lady Gaga stole the VMA 2009 your point? PSY stole the AMA's show your point?

Okey

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Simply embarrassing. My "Body Ache-worshippers" comment is most relevant here.

She gets worse every era, let's leave it at that. She shows no enthusiasm in her work. Iggy and Katy Perry are merely warning signs.

No one likes body ache, so that joke isn't even funny no one worships BJ as well. Don't call me a worshipper because I do not "worship" BJ there's a lot of other albums from other artist I like better than BJ. I barely listen to BJ

Worse every era?? We're talking about music rn, so that is not true at all, FF is actually more liked than some of her older albums (excluding ITZ/Blackout)

I don't believe Britney is great at everything she's doing right now, but music is different because I know will.i.am is a terrible producer

[britneystanstan]

No one likes body ache, so that joke isn't even funny no one worships BJ as well. Don't call me a worshipper because I do not "worship" BJ there's a lot of other albums from other artist I like better than BJ. I barely listen to BJ

Worse every era?? We're talking about music rn, so that is not true at all, FF is actually more liked than some of her older albums (excluding ITZ/Blackout)

I don't believe Britney is great at everything she's doing right now, but music is different because I know will.i.am is a terrible producer

It just means people with questionable music taste.

The Circus/Femme Fatale comparison is arguable because both remain less good than Blackout. We just hit a new low with Britney Jean and there is nothing to indicate anything will get better when eras in general just become more and more disappointing

For all we know, we'll just get a worse producer than Will.

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It just means people with questionable music taste.

The Circus/Femme Fatale comparison is arguable because both remain less good than Blackout. We just hit a new low with Britney Jean and there is nothing to indicate anything will get better when eras in general just become more and more disappointing

For all we know, we'll just get a worse producer than Will.

The eras don't become more disappointing, Circus is one of the most liked eras and also one of my favs too. I like it waaaay better than bomt era so I guess that's just opinion :idc:

Is there any producer worse than will?

[carlitos'crib]

I say what I want. Not my fault Queen Bey gets Britney fans so riled up, for some reason. I didn't even bash Britney in the OP.

Britney fans like to joke how the Hive can't read, but the same problem exists with the Army, I guess.

I would say Taylor Swift is the "current queen" of music, but whatever...

...and yeah, probably Beyonce eventually will release something similar to Janelle's sound, since she never comes out with something new or original.

[britneystanstan]

The eras don't become more disappointing, Circus is one of the most liked eras and also one of my favs too. I like it waaaay better than bomt era so I guess that's just opinion :idc:

Is there any producer worse than will?

I'm sure there are tons they could find.

And nope, BJ really was the worst.

[britneystanstan]

I would say Taylor Swift is the "current queen" of music, but whatever...

...and yeah, probably Beyonce eventually will release something similar to Janelle's sound, since she never comes out with something new or original.

Neither is 90% of mainstream music, Britney included.

Taylor isn't as good a performer and artist as Bey, and Bey's net worth says otherwise.

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I'm sure there are tons they could find.

And nope, BJ really was the worst.

Yea but you have to be on a certain level to even work with Britney

BJ was the worst era yes, but the eras aren't becoming more disappointing it's just Britney Jean that was a flop

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Neither is 90% of mainstream music, Britney included.

Taylor isn't as good a performer and artist as Bey, and Bey's net worth says otherwise.

Britney is like the only artist who doesn't follow a trend she starts them

and maybe gaga too she doesn't start trends because she's not that influential, but kudos to her for not following them I guess

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I would say Taylor Swift is the "current queen" of music, but whatever...

...and yeah, probably Beyonce eventually will release something similar to Janelle's sound, since she never comes out with something new or original.

this tbh

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It is pretty clear Britney is stuck with music that would've been cool 10 years ago. She has grown, but the music hasn't grown with her. Flop harder than BJ? It has that throwback sound that is "in" right now without being too reductive. Reminds me of when there used to be a thread on Exhell about Britney going a Daft Punk direction and the Britards hated on it... Get Lucky smashed a few months later and Random Access Memories and won a Grammy.

We weren't talking about success though, we were talking about Janelle's artistry. Should I say that Britney should take notes from Katy Perry then?

Funny enough, we are at that stage where Britney's music is shit AND no one cares about it so might as well improve one aspect since we'll never get both

If get lucky was sang by Britney it would never win a grammy for a simple reason that Grammy people cant stand Britney and adore underestimating her and discrediting her. I understand that you like Beyonce . I personally can't stand her, and its really not because of Britney I swear. Its because she brought literally nothing new and fresh to the pop world. She just continued doing what everyone else did in a slightly different way, hiding behind racism and feminism and most probably buying an award here and there. She is talented its true, and a beautiful woman, but people are giving her way more credit than she deserves, shes very overrated. Her music is actually pretty boring. The only songs I actually like by her are sweet dreams, her debut song with jay z (forgot the name) and maybe one or two more songs I cant recall atm. And no i am not a typical brittard, I like plenty of high quality artists, Etta James , Elton John , Nina Simone. I actually like plenty of black artists who changed the music world and re-directed it. And Britney, although not as nearly vocally powerful as the artists I mentioned managed to change the direction of the music, over 3 times actually. Beyonce however still didnt manage to do this. She brings nothing new, nothing special, she changes nothing, she simply follows. Yes I would say Britney follows the trend now too, but dont forget its actually the trend she has set long time ago, a couple of times even. Thats all But its fine that u stan for Bey, shes certainly not a bad artist. I just dont like when ppl say she is better than Britney. Vocally, perhaps, but as an artist, nowhere near.

[britneystanstan]

Britney is like the only artist who doesn't follow a trend she starts them

and maybe gaga too she doesn't start trends because she's not that influential, but kudos to her for not following them I guess

If get lucky was sang by Britney it would never win a grammy for a simple reason that Grammy people cant stand Britney and adore underestimating her and discrediting her. I understand that you like Beyonce . I personally can't stand her, and its really not because of Britney I swear. Its because she brought literally nothing new and fresh to the pop world. She just continued doing what everyone else did in a slightly different way, hiding behind racism and feminism and most probably buying an award here and there. She is talented its true, and a beautiful woman, but people are giving her way more credit than she deserves, shes very overrated. Her music is actually pretty boring. The only songs I actually like by her are sweet dreams, her debut song with jay z (forgot the name) and maybe one or two more songs I cant recall atm. And no i am not a typical brittard, I like plenty of high quality artists, Etta James , Elton John , Nina Simone. I actually like plenty of black artists who changed the music world and re-directed it. And Britney, although not as nearly vocally powerful as the artists I mentioned managed to change the direction of the music, over 3 times actually. Beyonce however still didnt manage to do this. She brings nothing new, nothing special, she changes nothing, she simply follows. Yes I would say Britney follows the trend now too, but dont forget its actually the trend she has set long time ago, a couple of times even. Thats all But its fine that u stan for Bey, shes certainly not a bad artist. I just dont like when ppl say she is better than Britney. Vocally, perhaps, but as an artist, nowhere near.

Okay, THIS will be the last Beyonce post I put here, but I can say, it is rather useless arguing with Britney fans about this.

The only people who discredit Bey's awards are people from other fanbases on Internet forums. The fact Britney isn't a respected artist by the Grammys is her fault, not Beyonce's. Her more recent endeavors and performing does not help her case.

Britney did NOT change much in the scene music-wise. She may have influenced people's images, marketing and performance styles, but musically? She has rarely offered something completely new and out there. The best cases you could bring up is HIAM (although dubstep was already happening in Europe at the time). Teen pop? It was happening before she entered the scene. Blackout? Was it the first time there was a club-ready dance album? Not when FutureSex/Lovesounds and Confessions on the Dance Floor existed. The first urban album in history from In the Zone?

Which is okay because she is a POP ARTIST. It's just funny how Britney fans treat her music as something incredible revolutionary when she has never been that kind of artist. She used to give quality pop music and so does Bey to this day with her R&B/urban albums.

But of course, the Grammys have favorites. Of course, they're going to keep on picking artists who sing, are great performers and serve successful albums. Quality would be debatable. Again, it is all Britney and her team's fault that she has such a "disrespected" image right now. The difference with her and Bey is even though Beyonce may "buy" her awards, every time she's asked to prove she deserves them, she brings it.

It's also funny how people say "Beyonce's just a good singer"... Isn't that they are? Singers? Shouldn't that be at least 50% of the criteria, considering IT IS THEIR JOB. Britney doesn't sing, dance, write most of her music, produce? What is it that she can do? Take off your stan glasses for once and see that Britney is probably the most uninvolved "artist" right now in the industry. What is there to respect?

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Okay, THIS will be the last Beyonce post I put here, but I can say, it is rather useless arguing with Britney fans about this.

The only people who discredit Bey's awards are people from other fanbases on Internet forums. The fact Britney isn't a respected artist by the Grammys is her fault, not Beyonce's. Her more recent endeavors and performing does not help her case.

Britney did NOT change much in the scene music-wise. She may have influenced people's images, marketing and performance styles, but musically? She has rarely offered something completely new and out there. The best cases you could bring up is HIAM (although dubstep was already happening in Europe at the time). Teen pop? It was happening before she entered the scene. Blackout? Was it the first time there was a club-ready dance album? Not when FutureSex/Lovesounds and Confessions on the Dance Floor existed. The first urban album in history from In the Zone?

Which is okay because she is a POP ARTIST. It's just funny how Britney fans treat her music as something incredible revolutionary when she has never been that kind of artist. She used to give quality pop music and so does Bey to this day with her R&B/urban albums.

But of course, the Grammys have favorites. Of course, they're going to keep on picking artists who sing, are great performers and serve successful albums. Quality would be debatable. Again, it is all Britney and her team's fault that she has such a "disrespected" image right now. The difference with her and Bey is even though Beyonce may "buy" her awards, every time she's asked to prove she deserves them, she brings it.

It's also funny how people say "Beyonce's just a good singer"... Isn't that they are? Singers? Shouldn't that be at least 50% of the criteria, considering IT IS THEIR JOB. Britney doesn't sing, dance, write most of her music, produce? What is it that she can do? Take off your stan glasses for once and see that Britney is probably the most uninvolved "artist" right now in the industry. What is there to respect?

Uhm like I said, I literally dont mind the least that you put Beyonce posts here, I am also very new so i dont really mind it. It is perfectly fine you stan for her . There is no need to put down Britney at all. Yes dubstep was very used in Europe but never within a legit song by an artist. Britney is literally the first artist to bring dubstep into her music, and no, not with HIAM but with freakshow and mannequin. No other artist before her actually used dubstep along with vocals, because they were all afraid of it. Its with HIAM that she truly brought it up and everyone started using it. Blackout is the first highly urban album that was influenced by euro pop and dubstep , that an american artists dared to do. Yes euro-pop was brought to the world scene by eurythimics but they were a european band, and for that reason no american performer ever dared to get involved with the legacy as the standard was VERY high. However Britney did it and she did it amazingly, and it was well accepted by everyone. In the zone, although not revolutionary, brought something new. Back then no worldly known female artist (except for janet but she was barely popular in europe and she never was up to this day) dared to bring the over-sexualized image. Britney, who had the image of this slut-innocent girl, dared to experiment big time and break out of the shell, she decided she wants to step up with her music, and her image. U and i both know how well judged she was by most, but also praised for daring to do what almost nobody dared. Like I said janete did it but her level of fame wolrwide was nowhere near Britneys. Britney had an image to protect on every single continent. So yes, Britney definitely changed the pop world. She brought up many new directions and helped them crawl into the albums of famous artists. She started it. She brought the sexual image with ITZ and opened the door to all the female artist who over-sexualize their image today. Yes, even Mrs. Beyonce. And yes ofc grammy;s will pick great performers, which Britney was up until 2011, and she actually is quite showing some good dancing skills on POM again. So why did the Grammy's ignore Britney when she was at her highest level of fame and credibility , not to mention voice and dancing-wise? Because they favorize artists. And yes, god yes ur right when u say they r supposed to sing cuz thats what their profession is about. But u and I both know that in the 21st century , if you wanna be a global star, you're gonna have to look smoking good, gonna have to act good, sing good, and dance good. The fact Britney doesn't sing live in the last 4-5 years doesnt overcome the fact that she proved she infact can sing for over 10 years before-hand. You are being unrealistic. Britney has a legacy she built fair and square, noone should try to take this away from her by bringing some silly "facts"

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Uhm like I said, I literally dont mind the least that you put Beyonce posts here, I am also very new so i dont really mind it. It is perfectly fine you stan for her . There is no need to put down Britney at all. Yes dubstep was very used in Europe but never within a legit song by an artist. Britney is literally the first artist to bring dubstep into her music, and no, not with HIAM but with freakshow and mannequin. No other artist before her actually used dubstep along with vocals, because they were all afraid of it. Its with HIAM that she truly brought it up and everyone started using it. Blackout is the first highly urban album that was influenced by euro pop and dubstep , that an american artists dared to do. Yes euro-pop was brought to the world scene by eurythimics but they were a european band, and for that reason no american performer ever dared to get involved with the legacy as the standard was VERY high. However Britney did it and she did it amazingly, and it was well accepted by everyone. In the zone, although not revolutionary, brought something new. Back then no worldly known female artist (except for janet but she was barely popular in europe and she never was up to this day) dared to bring the over-sexualized image. Britney, who had the image of this slut-innocent girl, dared to experiment big time and break out of the shell, she decided she wants to step up with her music, and her image. U and i both know how well judged she was by most, but also praised for daring to do what almost nobody dared. Like I said janete did it but her level of fame wolrwide was nowhere near Britneys. Britney had an image to protect on every single continent. So yes, Britney definitely changed the pop world. She brought up many new directions and helped them crawl into the albums of famous artists. She started it. She brought the sexual image with ITZ and opened the door to all the female artist who over-sexualize their image today. Yes, even Mrs. Beyonce. And yes ofc grammy;s will pick great performers, which Britney was up until 2011, and she actually is quite showing some good dancing skills on POM again. So why did the Grammy's ignore Britney when she was at her highest level of fame and credibility , not to mention voice and dancing-wise? Because they favorize artists. And yes, god yes ur right when u say they r supposed to sing cuz thats what their profession is about. But u and I both know that in the 21st century , if you wanna be a global star, you're gonna have to look smoking good, gonna have to act good, sing good, and dance good. The fact Britney doesn't sing live in the last 4-5 years doesnt overcome the fact that she proved she infact can sing for over 10 years before-hand. You are being unrealistic. Britney has a legacy she built fair and square, noone should try to take this away from her by bringing some silly "facts"

I just dislike talking about Beyonce when she isn't even related in this thread. It's clear Britney fans feel so insecure about her talent and the fact she still cares about her career.

You see this is why I dislike it when some fans defend Britney the wrong way sometimes. You're setting her up to get dragged with so many lies in this post.

1) I already said she's responsible for the blueprint as far as IMAGE is concerned, but to say she's the first oversexualized female ever? Blackout being the first urban album that's electro?

2) And the little credibility your arguments had would've somehow held if you didn't have to constantly say "Janet did it first".

3) She proved she can sing years prior? Where exactly? When she got dragged for that AMA performance of Not A Girl Not Yet A Woman?

[ahulyk]

Why are you here and posting on a britney an site? If ur not a fan go away! If ur so unhappy go away! We don't care about ur floponce thoughts! Seriously!