News Posted February 4, 2015 #1 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Man I am going to enjoy writing this post! Britney Spears should have more Grammy's according to Billboard and of course to the entire world. She should have gotten a Grammy for just being Britney Spears to be honest. Billboard listed all the reasons how Britney Spears got robbed from getting more Grammy's. Take a look at what they had to say: 2000 Best New Artist Lost To: Christina Aguilera Fellow Nominees: Macy Gray, Kid Rock, Susan Tedeschi Was Britney Robbed? Probably not. If Gray, a one-hit wonder, had snagged the first best new artist award of the 2000s and trumped a loaded list of nominees, then there would be reason to complain; Tedeschi and Kid Rock have each enjoyed long, fruitful careers, and would have been fine winners in another year. No matter which side you were on when "…Baby One More Time" and "Genie in a Bottle" constructed the Britney vs. Christina pop showdown, both artists have enjoyed long roller coaster rides in the spotlight, and it's hard to fault the Grammys for giving this award to the female sensation with the showier set of pipes. If the voting committee wasn't going to pick Britney in this category, they at least selected an artist with just as impressive a mainstream career. 2000 Best Female Pop Vocal Performance Nominated For: "…Baby One More Time" Lost To: Sarah McLachlan, "I Will Remember You (Live)" Fellow Nominees: Christina Aguilera, "Genie in a Bottle"; Madonna, "Beautiful Stranger"; Alanis Morissette, "Thank U" Was Britney Robbed? Maybe. Out of the five nominees, McLachlan's live rendition of "I Will Remember You" is the most conventional track, a soft-rock ballad that was understandably irresistible to older Grammy voters. Spears, Aguilera or Madonna could have deservingly walked away with this award, and deciding between the vocal performance of the slickly produced ache of "…Baby One More Time" and the melisma-packed crooning of "Genie in a Bottle" depends on personal preference more than anything. In a perfect world, Aguilera and Spears would have split the best new artist and best female pop vocal performance awards in 2000, leaving Christina with the bigger award but "…Baby One More Time" with the pop category win. 2001 Best Female Pop Vocal Performance Nominated For: "Oops!… I Did It Again" Lost To: Macy Gray, "I Try" Fellow Nominees: Christina Aguilera, "What a Girl Wants"; Madonna, "Music"; Aimee Mann, "Save Me"; Joni Mitchell, "Both Sides Now" Was Britney Robbed? Nope. While "Oops!… I Did It Again" is another one of Britney's most durable early hits, the song is certainly not a strong vocal showcase -- if anything, Max Martin and Rami's bubblegum production and hook-filled songwriting generates most of the mega-hit's power. And although Macy Gray's never recovered from the expectation of following up "I Try," only the most cold-hearted Macy hater would deny the jubilant vocal take at the center of that song. Listen to her jazzy rasp become a world-hugging screech over the course of the song's four minutes! The correct song won this award. 2001 Best Pop Vocal Album Nominated For: Oops!… I Did It Again Lost To: Steely Dan, Two Against Nature Fellow Nominees: Don Henley, Inside Job; Madonna, Music; *N SYNC, No Strings Attached Was Britney Robbed? Most likely. The dominance of Steely Dan's Two Against Nature at the 2001 Grammys ceremony is as baffling today as it was 14 years ago -- the Dan somehow won album of the year over Radiohead's Kid A and Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP! Two Against Nature also somehow snagged the best pop vocal album over hits-packed collections from *N SYNC, Madonna and Spears, the latter of whom dropped an impressively crafted collection of dance-pop and post-teen balladry on her sophomore effort. No Strings Attached and Oops! are both early 00's teenybopper staples, and either one deserved to topple the warm-soda jazz-rock of Steely Dan. 2003 Best Female Pop Vocal Performance Nominated For: "Overprotected" Lost To: Norah Jones, "Don't Know Why" Fellow Nominees: Sheryl Crow, "Soak Up the Sun"; Avril Lavigne, "Complicated"; P!nk, "Get The Party Started" Was Britney Robbed? Not this time. "Overprotected" is a totally passable pop-rock bid on 2001's Britney, but doesn't distinguish itself from the album's stronger singles ("I'm a Slave 4 U," "Boys"), let alone a particularly formidable group of female pop tracks in this category. The 2003 Grammys were defined by a Norah Jones smash-and-grab thanks to her gentle jazz-pop smash "Don't Know Why"; even if that soothing song isn't one's cup of chamomile tea, Avril Lavigne's "Complicated" and P!nk's "Get The Party Started" featured more endearing pop performances than "Overprotected." 2003 Best Pop Vocal Album Nominated For: Britney Lost To: Norah Jones, Come Away With Me Fellow Nominees: Avril Lavigne, Let Go; No Doubt, Rock Steady; Pink, Missundaztood Was Britney Robbed? Definitely. The transition to adulthood that followed Spears' more kid-friendly first pair of albums --swiveling between potent club tracks designed by the Neptunes, the snappy pop of Max Martin and stuttering R&B efforts from Rodney Jerkins -- was the most striking option in this category. Jones' Come Away With Me, which also won the album of the year trophy in 2003, steamrolled its competition in eight categories, and produced wins in all four major categories that evening ("Don't Know Why" songwriter Jesse Harris won song of the year). No matter what album went against Come Away With Me in the pop vocal album category that year, it was probably going to lose… but that doesn't mean that Jones deserved every single accolade in hindsight. More than any other Grammys loss, this one should sting for Britney fans. 2010 Best Dance Recording Nominated For: "Womanizer" Lost To: Lady Gaga, "Poker Face" Fellow Nominees: David Guetta and Kelly Rowland, "When Love Takes Over"; Madonna, "Celebration"; the Black Eyed Peas, "Boom Boom Pow" Was Britney Robbed? No way. Only the most diehard Spears supporter would argue that "Womanizer" was a more dynamic dance single than Lady Gaga's "Poker Face," which can still pack a dance floor in a hurry more than a half-decade after its chart run. "Womanizer" represented another compelling synth-pop hit from Spears' Circus release, but did not cause the seismic cultural influence of Gaga's follow-up to "Just Dance," which was nominated in the best dance recording category one year earlier. Britney vs. Gaga debates will be played out in online comments sections for years to come, but this showdown had an indisputable victor. 2012 Best Dance Recording Nominated For: Not Nominated Award Winner: Skrillex, "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" Other Nominees: Deadmau5 and Greta Svabo Bech, "Raise Your Weapon"; Duck Sauce, "Barbra Streisand"; David Guetta and Avicii, "Sunshine"; Robyn, "Call Your Girlfriend"; Swedish House Mafia, "Save The World" Was Britney Robbed? Absolutely -- and she wasn't even nominated. We could run through all of Spears' singles and albums that could have potentially been nominated for Grammys but were left out in the cold, but the worst crime committed against Britney by the institution was failing to include the 2011 single "Til The World Ends" in the best dance recording category. The second single from Femme Fatale represents Spears' most undeniable hit of the 2010s, an apocalyptic electro-pop alarm that hit No. 1 on Billboard's Dance Club Songs chart. Songs like "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites," "Call Your Girlfriend" and "Barbra Streisand" were deserving nominees in that year's category, but "Till The World Ends" overpowers all six of these songs, and should have helped Spears capture her second career Grammy. Read it on our mainsite!
yessy09 Posted February 4, 2015 #2 Report Posted February 4, 2015 The Grammys are a mafia and sure that britney has been robbed on several occasions even they snubbed her in some nominations because she could win easily eg, toxic won a best dance recording when should have won and been nominated for record of the year toxic is structurally the best song of 2004 undoubtedly better than the songs that were nominated and for not to mention their cynicism and shame toward blackout that wasn't even nominated at least was recognized by the hall music fame.
hyoga Posted February 4, 2015 #3 Report Posted February 4, 2015 I seriously hate the fact that britney only have one grammy and other basic artists and one hit wonders have more its so stupid the fact that they robbed her like that i seriously wish that someday someone will say well Britney was really something she may not have the best voice bit she truly is an artist and not any artist a trendsetter PS #B9 will slay
Dance Posted February 4, 2015 #4 Report Posted February 4, 2015 It's not a secret that the grammy committee have something against Britney, even brit herself knows they dis her a lot.Perhaps according to them shes not good enough for her immense career which makes them pressed. But then again considering they are just throwing the awards to all kinds of irrelevant average artists, their opinion seems to be very - musically uneducated. The fact they even dared to nominate a song to the likes of Anaconda says enough of how worthy they are of their position. Whole world laughed at them and i bet it will again in the near future. Up until then we can enjoy the sight of Beyonce buying her awards for the songs which literally make one yawn. YAY US
It's Armin B!tch Posted February 4, 2015 #5 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Grammys can kiss my sweet lily lousiana ass!
bajky Posted February 5, 2015 #6 Report Posted February 5, 2015 The Grammys are a mafia and sure that britney has been robbed on several occasions even they snubbed her in some nominations because she could win easily eg, toxic won a best dance recording when should have won and been nominated for record of the year toxic is structurally the best song of 2004 undoubtedly better than the songs that were nominated and for not to mention their cynicism and shame toward blackout that wasn't even nominated at least was recognized by the hall music fame. I seriously hate the fact that britney only have one grammy and other basic artists and one hit wonders have more its so stupid the fact that they robbed her like that i seriously wish that someday someone will say well Britney was really something she may not have the best voice bit she truly is an artist and not any artist a trendsetter PS #B9 will slay
PopMusicJunkie Posted February 5, 2015 #7 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I enjoyed reading and agreed with their points. I don't think the Grammy's hate Britney, she was nom'd in pop categories for 3 straight years but her personal life (starting with the In the Zone era) began to overshadow her musical accomplishments which has been the narrative since. She eventually got her win for "Toxic" but she has yet to have an album that is universally praised, Blackout & Femme Fatale both have cult-like followings and have been praised after their initial releases but were snubbed -- that's a shame. I know awards shows don't mean ish, but the Grammy's are the equivalent to the Oscars for music, I want her next project to garner noms. I think she has it in her. 2
btmyhbrit99 Posted February 5, 2015 #8 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I enjoyed reading and agreed with their points. I don't think the Grammy's hate Britney, she was nom'd in pop categories for 3 straight years but her personal life (starting with the In the Zone era) began to overshadow her musical accomplishments which has been the narrative since. She eventually got her win for "Toxic" but she has yet to have an album that is universally praised, Blackout & Femme Fatale both have cult-like followings and have been praised after their initial releases but were snubbed -- that's a shame. I know awards shows don't mean ish, but the Grammy's are the equivalent to the Oscars for music, I want her next project to garner noms. I think she has it in her. I would agree with you but other artists with crazy personal lives have been nominated and won and they tend to give big category awards to songs/albums/artists nobody in the GP has heard of. It's clear they just don't like her and don't want to see her win. I think she'll get a life time achievement from them though. Not like she'll care of course.
PopMusicJunkie Posted February 5, 2015 #9 Report Posted February 5, 2015 @@btmyhbrit99 Who, cite me a specific example, preferably another female artist with her level of fame? The official Grammy twitter page often retweets from Brit's page, wishes her a happy birthday every year, and she was invited to be apart of Whitney Houston's tribute concert that was hosted by the Grammy's. I'm just not of the opinion that the Grammy's hate Britney, and this is something I've seen echoed a lot within the Army. She could have been overlooked at the beginning of her career but wasn't. She was a guaranteed nominee for pop categories the first three years of her career and that stopped around her 4th album. "Toxic" could have easily lost to Scissor Sisters, there was a lot of buzz surrounding them at the time, had she lost that would have been a strong example of them hating her... but that didn't happen. 1
britneystanstan Posted February 5, 2015 #10 Report Posted February 5, 2015 @@btmyhbrit99 Who, cite me a specific example, preferably another female artist with her level of fame? The official Grammy twitter page often retweets and wishes her a happy birthday, and she was invited to be apart of Whitney Houston's tribute concert that was hosted by the Grammy's. I'm just not of the opinion that the Grammy's hate Britney, and this is something I've seen echoed a lot within the Army. She could have easily been overlooked at the beginning of her career just as easily but wasn't. She was a shoo-in for pop nom's the first three years of her career and that stopped around her 4th album. "Toxic" could have easily lost to Scissor Sisters, there was a lot of buzz surrounding them at the time, had she lost I would agree about them hating her... but that didn't happen. Of course, these are the same fans who would lose their shit and shove it down everyone's throats if she gets nominated. The Grammy's are a combination of image + music + success. Other popstars may have "crazy" personal lives, but their music is either more respected (like Kanye) or just extremely successful the past year (like Katy and Iggy) or a mix of both. I think Blackout at least deserved an Electronic dance album Grammy. There is of course the factor of timing too because it'll also depend on the competition that year. Britney isn't winning a Grammy because 1) She doesn't have the image of an artist. 2) Her music is no longer successful 3) Her latest music is shit. If she wants a Grammy, she needs to revamp her image and have a good album. 1 1
PopMusicJunkie Posted February 5, 2015 #11 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Of course, these are the same fans who would lose their shit and shove it down everyone's throats if she gets nominated. The Grammy's are a combination of image + music + success. Other popstars may have "crazy" personal lives, but their music is either more respected (like Kanye) or just extremely successful the past year (like Katy and Iggy) or a mix of both. I think Blackout at least deserved an Electronic dance album Grammy. There is of course the factor of timing too because it'll also depend on the competition that year. Britney isn't winning a Grammy because 1) She doesn't have the image of an artist. 2) Her music is no longer successful 3) Her latest music is shit. If she wants a Grammy, she needs to revamp her image and have a good album. I'm not seeing any lies, I agree. 1
btmyhbrit99 Posted February 5, 2015 #12 Report Posted February 5, 2015 @@btmyhbrit99 Who, cite me a specific example, preferably another female artist with her level of fame? The official Grammy twitter page often retweets from Brit's page, wishes her a happy birthday every year, and she was invited to be apart of Whitney Houston's tribute concert that was hosted by the Grammy's. I'm just not of the opinion that the Grammy's hate Britney, and this is something I've seen echoed a lot within the Army. She could have been overlooked at the beginning of her career but wasn't. She was a guaranteed nominee for pop categories the first three years of her career and that stopped around her 4th album. "Toxic" could have easily lost to Scissor Sisters, there was a lot of buzz surrounding them at the time, had she lost that would have been a strong example of them hating her... but that didn't happen. First off, why do I have to cite a female arrist? Secondly I have no idea who scissor sister's are and I don't know their song so you bringing that up to me here means nothing. Third, just because they wish her a happy birthday and nominated her a bunch at the beginning of her career means nothing to me because as a fan when I know a lot of best work came post Britney era and they pretty much ignored those album minus Toxic. Those tweets are them being nice just in case they want her to make an appearance. Like I said I would have agreed with you but I don't. I'm not a blind britney stan, I'm far from it. I still say they don't like her. You're basically saying the same thing but just blaming Britney for not being SUPERB and saying that's why they don't nominate her. And to answer your first question Michael Jackson, even during his height things were crazy for him, people were talking about him and he has been nominated countless times. Kanye West is not liked by the mainstream press, he's been nominated and won. Rihanna & Miley Cyrus both make the news for antics in their personal life and they get nominated. Eminem is being accused of being misogynistic and homophobic and they nominate him. Iggy Azalea is the number one cultural appropriator right and, look, she's been nominated! So don't tell me you agree with Britney's personal life being the reason for this when she's not the only artist with messy a life. And she's definitely overcome that dark period so why didn't they nominate "Til The World Ends" and that was a certified smash? I still feel how I feel. 2
confidentnotcocky Posted February 5, 2015 #13 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Well music snobs don't like Britney do they? Toxic was that undeniable good song and got an award. Why do you think Christina beat her for best newcomer? They are all about image and stuff, big names like Gun n roses, The strokes, Queen, Jimi Hendrix and even bob marley haven't even won and i'm sure their fans don't care. Plus the grammy's is lame and boring now. 3
PopMusicJunkie Posted February 5, 2015 #14 Report Posted February 5, 2015 @@btmyhbrit99 I'm going to break this down. First off, why do I have to cite a female arrist? Simple. Male artists aren't held to the same standards as females, hence my question. Secondly I have no idea who scissor sister's are and I don't know their song so you bringing that up to me here means nothing. It absolutely means something which is why I cited them as an example, they were the front runners for "Best Dance Recording," Britney was not a lock for that award. The fact "Toxic" won is an example of the academy being able to be unbiased and award for excellence. Of course there are a lot of politics involved, them being out of touch, etc, not disputing that, but Britney getting this Grammy was well deserved. Third, just because they wish her a happy birthday and nominated her a bunch at the beginning of her career means nothing to me because as a fan when I know a lot of best work came post Britney era and they pretty much ignored those album minus Toxic. Those tweets are them being nice just in case they want her to make an appearance. Like I said I would have agreed with you but I don't. I'm not a blind britney stan, I'm far from it. I still say they don't like her. You're basically saying the same thing but just blaming Britney for not being SUPERB and saying that's why they don't nominate her. I almost stopped reading once I read the underlined part, tbh. I too think a lot of her best music came post breakdown. But we're not talking glee, or How I Met Your Mother, this award show doesn't need Britney to make an appearance (for ratings sake). You're of the opinion the Grammy's hate her, so why would they even bother? I think that Britney is very capable of garnering nom's again but only if the music is right on the money and why shouldn't I think that? Times are much different now, competition is way tough when it was just her and her clones. She received a nom for "Female Pop Vocal Performance" with "Overprotected"... not really a song that is a vocal showcase. The academy started to back off a bit (she was nom'd in '10 for "Womanizer") once her personal life became full-blown tabloid fodder, starting with the quickie Vegas wedding and public perception hasn't been the same since. She's often looked at as damaged goods, a fragile doll, but I think she can overcome all of those with the right musical output. Despite many thinking she is so ~hated~ she gets a lot of goodwill as a person. So what is wrong with what I said? I remain truthful (as I see it, clearly) yet optimistic. And to answer your first question Michael Jackson, even during his height things were crazy for him, people were talking about him and he has been nominated countless times. Kanye West is not liked by the mainstream press, he's been nominated and won. Again... male artists aren't held to the same standards. It sucks but that's just how it is. I'll cite an example, Justin Timberlake has been allowed to get away with a helluva a lot regrading how he treated Britney & Janet. Rihanna & Miley Cyrus both make the news for antics in their personal life and they get nominated. Eminem is being accused of being misogynistic and homophobic and they nominate him. Iggy Azalea is the number one cultural appropriator right and, look, she's been nominated! So don't tell me you agree with Britney's personal life being the reason for this when she's not the only artist with messy a life. And she's definitely overcome that dark period so why didn't they nominate "Til The World Ends" and that was a certified smash? I still feel how I feel. Yet both Rihanna & Miley Cyrus, for all their controversial moments, are still respected singers. That's the strong distinction between Britney and the current "it" girls. They may not be great singers, but there are recognized for their live vocal performances and over the years have been praised for them. I think both pale in comparison to Britney as a pop performer & allure but let's not act like the amount of times Britney has sung live can't be counted on one hand. Iggy is the rent-a-rapper for the moment and the controversy surrounding only started to blow up during the latter part of '14 -- not a strong example. Em gets a pass on everything he's a white, straight male. "Till the World Ends" wasn't nom'd -- I think Femme Fatale was snubbed but largely forgotten -- because of the rule change that mainstream hits were no longer eligible for "Best Dance Recording." Had that not been the case she would have been nom'd and likely won. You can still feel how ya want, sis. No harm done.
Maria Spears Posted February 5, 2015 #15 Report Posted February 5, 2015 They didnt nominate the best album of this past decade (Hall of Fame masterpiece) Blackout. So grammy's suck. Bye 1
MadDennis Posted February 5, 2015 #16 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I enjoyed reading and agreed with their points. I don't think the Grammy's hate Britney, she was nom'd in pop categories for 3 straight years but her personal life (starting with the In the Zone era) began to overshadow her musical accomplishments which has been the narrative since. She eventually got her win for "Toxic" but she has yet to have an album that is universally praised, Blackout & Femme Fatale both have cult-like followings and have been praised after their initial releases but were snubbed -- that's a shame. I know awards shows don't mean ish, but the Grammy's are the equivalent to the Oscars for music, I want her next project to garner noms. I think she has it in her. Britney is like Leonardo Di Caprio, he makes awesome movies and he still doesn't have an Oscar, at least Britney has one Grammy 1
Godney Jeansus Posted February 5, 2015 #17 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Grammys Hate her. Do we need to say more ?
SpearsSlave Posted February 5, 2015 #18 Report Posted February 5, 2015 TTWE, HIAM, Work Bitch deserve a grammy, i'm not gonna speak about previous song cause I'll probably say almost every single from past albums deserve one.
britneystanstan Posted February 5, 2015 #19 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Britney is like Leonardo Di Caprio, he makes awesome movies and he still doesn't have an Oscar, at least Britney has one Grammy Jennifer Aniston would be a better comparison.
btmyhbrit99 Posted February 5, 2015 #20 Report Posted February 5, 2015 @@btmyhbrit99 I'm going to break this down. First off, why do I have to cite a female arrist? Simple. Male artists aren't held to the same standards as females, hence my question. Secondly I have no idea who scissor sister's are and I don't know their song so you bringing that up to me here means nothing. It absolutely means something which is why I cited them as an example, they were the front runners for "Best Dance Recording," Britney was not a lock for that award. The fact "Toxic" won is an example of the academy being able to be unbiased and award for excellence. Of course there are a lot of politics involved, them being out of touch, etc, not disputing that, but Britney getting this Grammy was well deserved. Third, just because they wish her a happy birthday and nominated her a bunch at the beginning of her career means nothing to me because as a fan when I know a lot of best work came post Britney era and they pretty much ignored those album minus Toxic. Those tweets are them being nice just in case they want her to make an appearance. Like I said I would have agreed with you but I don't. I'm not a blind britney stan, I'm far from it. I still say they don't like her. You're basically saying the same thing but just blaming Britney for not being SUPERB and saying that's why they don't nominate her. I almost stopped reading once I read the underlined part, tbh. I too think a lot of her best music came post breakdown. But we're not talking glee, or How I Met Your Mother, this award show doesn't need Britney to make an appearance (for ratings sake). You're of the opinion the Grammy's hate her, so why would they even bother? I think that Britney is very capable of garnering nom's again but only if the music is right on the money and why shouldn't I think that? Times are much different now, competition is way tough when it was just her and her clones. She received a nom for "Female Pop Vocal Performance" with "Overprotected"... not really a song that is a vocal showcase. The academy started to back off a bit (she was nom'd in '10 for "Womanizer") once her personal life became full-blown tabloid fodder, starting with the quickie Vegas wedding and public perception hasn't been the same since. She's often looked at as damaged goods, a fragile doll, but I think she can overcome all of those with the right musical output. Despite many thinking she is so ~hated~ she gets a lot of goodwill as a person. So what is wrong with what I said? I remain truthful (as I see it, clearly) yet optimistic. And to answer your first question Michael Jackson, even during his height things were crazy for him, people were talking about him and he has been nominated countless times. Kanye West is not liked by the mainstream press, he's been nominated and won. Again... male artists aren't held to the same standards. It sucks but that's just how it is. I'll cite an example, Justin Timberlake has been allowed to get away with a helluva a lot regrading how he treated Britney & Janet. Rihanna & Miley Cyrus both make the news for antics in their personal life and they get nominated. Eminem is being accused of being misogynistic and homophobic and they nominate him. Iggy Azalea is the number one cultural appropriator right and, look, she's been nominated! So don't tell me you agree with Britney's personal life being the reason for this when she's not the only artist with messy a life. And she's definitely overcome that dark period so why didn't they nominate "Til The World Ends" and that was a certified smash? I still feel how I feel. Yet both Rihanna & Miley Cyrus, for all their controversial moments, are still respected singers. That's the strong distinction between Britney and the current "it" girls. They may not be great singers, but there are recognized for their live vocal performances and over the years have been praised for them. I think both pale in comparison to Britney as a pop performer & allure but let's not act like the amount of times Britney has sung live can't be counted on one hand. Iggy is the rent-a-rapper for the moment and the controversy surrounding only started to blow up during the latter part of '14 -- not a strong example. Em gets a pass on everything he's a white, straight male. "Till the World Ends" wasn't nom'd -- I think Femme Fatale was snubbed but largely forgotten -- because of the rule change that mainstream hits were no longer eligible for "Best Dance Recording." Had that not been the case she would have been nom'd and likely won. You can still feel how ya want, sis. No harm done. Feel how you want to feel but to clarify, when I say they hate her I mean as an artist. They know she will bring ratings so they're "nice" to her and send happy birthday tweets to make it seem like they want her there, hence make an appearance as a presenter. But just because they want her there doesn't mean they like her enough to respect her and give her the recognition she deserves when she deserves it not just when she's the hot new bitch on the scene, like they did at the beginning. I can't forgive them ignoring Everytime, Blackout, Circus and Til the World Ends.Also you don't have to patronize me or anyone else to get your point across btw. So next time you reply to me keep it classy. Thanks. 1
PopMusicJunkie Posted February 5, 2015 #21 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Feel how you want to feel but to clarify, when I say they hate her I mean as an artist. They know she will bring ratings so they're "nice" to her and send happy birthday tweets to make it seem like they want her there, hence make an appearance as a presenter. But just because they want her there doesn't mean they like her enough to respect her and give her the recognition she deserves when she deserves it not just when she's the hot new bitch on the scene, like they did at the beginning. I can't forgive them ignoring Everytime, Blackout, Circus and Til the World Ends. Also you don't have to patronize me or anyone else to get your point across btw. So next time you reply to me keep it classy. Thanks. The ratings for the Grammy's are just fine, and have been growing year to year, for example last year's telecast was the 2nd highest since '93. So Britney is not needed to goose ratings, she would benefit from the exposure more then anything, reminding people she is still active and not just sequestered in Vegas. Britney = instant big ratings is a tired stance, it didn't work for X-Factor, and it won't spike the ratings for this show. They have more then enough star power yearly now. I hope she goes this year as a presenter and looks great. I'm pumped for all things Britney after all the surprises Superbowl weekend brought. Britney isn't respected as an artist for various reasons, but one of them is that she doesn't sing live when left to her own devices and her team insists on marketing her as if this is early '00. She's the only pop star to perform a show that is complete with vocals from her studio albums. Realistically, why should that be celebrated? Her last album wasn't fully sung by her on lead either, all of this doesn't paint a really good picture of an artist really striving for excellence. Her last shows have been a big improvement in terms of showmanship, so I'm happy, but only a small portion of her fans know or see that. I remain hopeful her next album, this year in general, will be good and right the wrongs that was everything Britney Jean. I legit wanted you to cite an example of a female artist that can be compared to Britney, you were the one that got defensive ("First of all... Second of all... Thirdly...") then proceeded to completely disregard most of the points I made. I was calm initially, practice what you preach, sweetheart. 1 1
Jojo93220 Posted February 5, 2015 #22 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I enjoyed reading and agreed with their points. I don't think the Grammy's hate Britney, she was nom'd in pop categories for 3 straight years but her personal life (starting with the In the Zone era) began to overshadow her musical accomplishments which has been the narrative since. She eventually got her win for "Toxic" but she has yet to have an album that is universally praised, Blackout & Femme Fatale both have cult-like followings and have been praised after their initial releases but were snubbed -- that's a shame. I know awards shows don't mean ish, but the Grammy's are the equivalent to the Oscars for music, I want her next project to garner noms. I think she has it in her. I totally approve... 1
breakitdown Posted February 5, 2015 #23 Report Posted February 5, 2015 It's obvious the Grammy's don't consider Britney a real artist. Which at the same time shows how biased they are. They should only look at the quality of a song or album. Nothing more. There's simply no reason for not at least nominating Blackout.
btmyhbrit99 Posted February 6, 2015 #24 Report Posted February 6, 2015 The ratings for the Grammy's are just fine, and have been growing year to year, for example last year's telecast was the 2nd highest since '93. So Britney is not needed to goose ratings, she would benefit from the exposure more then anything, reminding people she is still active and not just sequestered in Vegas. Britney = instant big ratings is a tired stance, it didn't work for X-Factor, and it won't spike the ratings for this show. They have more then enough star power yearly now. I hope she goes this year as a presenter and looks great. I'm pumped for all things Britney after all the surprises Superbowl weekend brought. Britney isn't respected as an artist for various reasons, but one of them is that she doesn't sing live when left to her own devices and her team insists on marketing her as if this is early '00. She's the only pop star to perform a show that is complete with vocals from her studio albums. Realistically, why should that be celebrated? Her last album wasn't fully sung by her on lead either, all of this doesn't paint a really good picture of an artist really striving for excellence. Her last shows have been a big improvement in terms of showmanship, so I'm happy, but only a small portion of her fans know or see that. I remain hopeful her next album, this year in general, will be good and right the wrongs that was everything Britney Jean. I legit wanted you to cite an example of a female artist that can be compared to Britney, you were the one that got defensive ("First of all... Second of all... Thirdly...") then proceeded to completely disregard most of the points I made. I was calm initially, practice what you preach, sweetheart. Never said you were being anything other than patronizing. I say firstly, secondly and on when I'm making a list of points not to attack you. And I did list some females. Now I'm not sure why you're citing the BJ/LV era when I didn't and I don't think she should get recognition for that because it's not her best work. I think she should have been recognized for the things I mentioned and they didn't which I feel is disrespectful to her. And btw X factor's ratings went down the year she wasn't there. And the Grammy's don't "need" more ratings, true, but they would always like the boost the B-army would give them if she attended. Who knows maybe she will but like I keep saying they don't respect her as an artist and that's a shame. She's not the only person who lipsyncs, she's not the only person who doesn't write all her music. And plenty of lipsyncing, non song writing performers get nominated. Her catalog of music is one of the strongest in the business, even with BJ, and the highest most important award in her industry has turned their backs on her for a while because they don't like her image or whatever. It's a shame. That's really all I'm trying to get at.
PopMusicJunkie Posted February 6, 2015 #25 Report Posted February 6, 2015 @@btmyhbrit99 Britney Jean/Vegas era is a prime example why she isn't respected as an artist overall. That album is strung together with dated & incomplete material, audio glitches, and highly questionable vocals not even sung by the primary artist. I've never seen an album so poorly constructed by a mainstream pop star before and luckily it's largely forgotten. Could you imagine the ire if TMZ really pressed Britney about not even singing lead on most of it? "Passenger" alone would be easy to prove. Blackout & Femme Fatale are good albums that are fan favorites but aren't critically praised especially upon their official releases, and unfortunately for Britney the never-ending questions surrounding her personal life takes precedence over her music. (It doesn't help that she no longer actively promotes her music outside of twitter either.) Both albums should have been nom'd, like this article stated "Till the World Ends" was left out, but with the rise of EDM only artists/producers/DJ's in that specific genre of DANCE are being considered. Britney is synonymous with the word lip-synch, she did a performance along side Rihanna with her hand held mic not even turned on with no real choreography. She is the only mainstream pop star that mimes for a whole concert. I don't have a real problem with it... but it only reinforces that she can't sing live even when the dance steps are no where near as difficult like they use to be. Both Rihanna & Miley Cyrus sing live unaided while being commercially successful, they're able to side step personal drama and still garner nom's because they're viewed as singers first & foremost. That's why I asked you to name a female artist that can be compared to Britney's situation, there aren't any. She was brought on specifically to boost ratings for X-Factor's 2nd season, that didn't happen, and of course the ratings fall the following season w/o her it hadn't reached it's bottom. The B-Army isn't as large and in charge as you think, she's boosted ratings for sitcoms in the past but that's been it. The Grammy's aren't playing nice via twitter just at the chance to get her on the show, that makes no sense, she's already a winner and they pretty much treat her as such online.
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