Did No Promo Really Kill Pretty Girls + Burka Jenner?

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Because after releasing a dance video, performing on Fallon, appearing on GMA and WWHL, and teasing the music video.... Igloo Flopstralia's new single "Team" is at #81 on iTunes   "It's hard to send a song up the charts without promo," she said. I think it's just hard to send a song up the charts when it features a flop cunt rapper who trashes others to gain media attention   

Pretty Girls wasn't a good song, but if Igloo had been replaced with any other rapper, it would have done at least marginally better 

 

How important is promo really for a single these days? Many of the current most popular songs got huge because they're catchy, not because the artists went on Ellen or an awards show. Rihanna has done no live televised performances in the US, but Work has been #1 for 5 weeks. Zayne got a #1 without promo. Moogan NeedsaTrainor is #1 on iTunes and has never performed the song. Stressed Out, 7 Years, My House, and I Took a Pill In Ibiza are all huge songs on radio, streaming and iTunes that have gotten there without promo and without controversy from the artists. 

 

If Godney releases a quality smasha, it will be a smasha on the charts

[Britnoy]

Can we make like Pretty Girls never happened just like we do with BJ, please?

[Mrs Jared Leto]

pretty girls is just horrible, doubt it'd have been a hit even with promo

[Caroline77]

Useless thread.

And PG was shit anyway.

[edurance]

'Pretty Girls' was dated as fuck... and let's not forget the video was a mess which somehow IGGY got to co-direct

[PopMusicJunkie]

It's not surprising Iggy Azalea is flopping, even with promo, now.  She is universally hated to the point it feels as if she's committed some heinous crime and in retrospect it's surprising "Pretty Girls" peaked at #2 on iTunes.  

 

"Work Bitch" would have benefited from some promo outside of Twitter, for sure, but there was no saving that crap-fest Britney Jean outside of that single.  

 

There is still hype & hope for Britney with B9, but the songs have to be undeniably good.  

[JocastaIsYoMama]

pretty girls is just horrible, doubt it'd have been a hit even with promo

 

Of course it was, but so was most of BJ. That's what I'm saying - we all blame 'lack of promo', but really they were just not what people wanted from Britney quality-wise. Promo these days is not what sells records, especially singles. 

[JocastaIsYoMama]

It's not surprising Iggy Azalea is flopping, even with promo, now.  She is universally hated to the point it feels as if she's committed some heinous crime and in retrospect it's surprising "Pretty Girls" peaked at #2 on iTunes.  

 

"Work Bitch" would have benefited from some promo outside of Twitter, for sure, but there was no saving that crap-fest Britney Jean outside of that single.  

 

There is still hype & hope for Britney with B9, but the songs have to be undeniably good.  

 

This. Work Bitch wasn't radio friendly at all, though, and I never thought it would be some big hit (even though I still really like it.) But the rest of Brinti Jade speaks for itself - it just isn't very good. I don't think the lack of promo had anything to do with either of them flopping (especially PG, considering she gave us her first televised award show performance in years and it still flopped.) All Britney needs is a great single and video and a smart strategy and B9 will smash   But people constantly blame it on the fact that she doesn't do a ton of promo. 

[Domino]

Idk about the album but Pretty Girls sounded disappointingly like Fancy.

[I_need_me]

I agree that no promo could've saved PG because the main problem was Iggy and how disliked she was/is, but I do think that BJ would've done a lot better if she had promoted properly. I remember how much attention Work Bitch got at the beggining, everyone was talking about how hot she looked in the video and the lyrics got so much potential to become an internet meme or something like that, you know? If they had pushed it with some performances or some interesting promotions instead of just doing interviews about Vegas I think the era could've been saved somehow. 

I also agree with you on the fact that nowadays a lot of songs become hits just because they're played on the radio and because the GP likes them, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't need to promote, it's a combination of both factors: quality and effort. She can easily score a top 10 or even a top 5 single if she releases a good song and does something to make people know about it. This era I've decided to trust her and her team so I have hope 

[1kissgoodnight]

pretty girls is just horrible, doubt it'd have been a hit even with promo

[Mike.]

I can't deal with y'all bashing pritti girls and brenda joana

it's her best material in years,y'all can't appreciate quality

disgusting.

 

I'm disappointed to say that Godney may not forgive y'all for all this negativity towards her.

Illuminati is coming for some bitches asses.

[Ooh-Ooh Britney]

The song has to be good, it's true.. but promo definitely helps too. 2/3 performances, a few interviews and appearances and she can rest till the album/second single is released.. How's that sound, Brit? 

[heather]

I feel like promo at this point is fans just desperately wanting to see more of Britney (and in turn complain about whatever they feel like she isn't doing properly) than it is for actually boosting sales.

[PsychoMonkey]

Quality and a catchy beat PG tanked not cus of promo but all on Igloo being the trash irrelevant hated artist that she is and PG not being the best song homegirl has given quality wise. I for one enjoy PG the video is artsy fartsy homegirl looks great and we finally got a promo performance from Brit.

I'm sure we wont go thru with B9 what happened with Brandy Levis Jean

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Quality and a catchy beat PG tanked not cus of promo but all on Igloo being the trash irrelevant hated artist that she is and PG not being the best song homegirl has given quality wise. I for one enjoy PG the video is artsy fartsy homegirl looks great and we finally got a promo performance from Brit.

I'm sure we wont go thru with B9 what happened with Brandy Levis Jean

 

Team is at #95 on iTunes now

[InTheToxicZone]

Promo doesn't automatically equate to success on the charts.  Me Against the Music was performed numerous times (without Madonna) and it did not chart high in the US.  Also, Formation was performed for like 100 million people at the Superbowl and the song wasn't a hit.  On the flip side, I Wanna Go did not have 1 televised performance and it was her biggest radio hit in the states.

 

That being said, social media should not be relied upon to make a song successful, sometimes a video will go viral but various communication tools need to be utilized to generate success.  Even one performance on a talk show would be better than nothing.

[Opulence]

Am I the only fan who actually liked PG?  I still listen to it, like today, for example. :pieceofwhat: Wasn't the best material she's ever released but it was a bop.  

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Am I the only fan who actually liked PG?  I still listen to it, like today, for example. :pieceofwhat: Wasn't the best material she's ever released but it was a bop.

 

It's fun, but it's just not very good 

It was very safe and cheesy, and Britney is known for producing quality pop music. She was always forward-thinking and different. PG could have been released by any flop pop artist. That was the major issue with Byron Jade, too. The music was just not up to the level that Britney is known to offer. 

[InTheToxicZone]

Also btw, BJ would have been # 1 on the charts most weeks.  Gwen Stefani sold 84k and is # 1 and I think Rihanna sold like 55k and was # 1.  That doesn't necessary speak to quality but the album wouldn't have been hated as much by fans if it at least was # 1.

[ForeverFeel1ng]

Britney isn't like Rihanna or Zayn who are super visible to the GP and everyone knows what they're doing.

As far as the GP are concerned Britney is in Vegas and thats it. No one outside fans is knows what she's up to.

 

Britney needs a "I'm Back Bitches" moment to become relevant to the GP again and raise her profile. A few late night talk shows with a few viral 'bits' will get her back in peoples minds (if she did carpool karaoke or falcon's musical impressions shit it'd blow up for sure) and people would actually listen to her single when it comes out.

 

Ziggy's flopped cause no one really cares & no one's interested in a new single from her. No amount of promo can save that. 

[PopMusicJunkie]

Also btw, BJ would have been # 1 on the charts most weeks.  Gwen Stefani sold 84k and is # 1 and I think Rihanna sold like 55k and was # 1.  That doesn't necessary speak to quality but the album wouldn't have been hated as much by fans if it at least was # 1.

 

Unlike Gwen Stefani's and Rihanna's, to be fair, Britney Jean was released during the Q4/holiday season -- where sales are typically higher.  Not to mention pure album sales, outside of Taylor Swift & Adele, are at all-time lows because streaming is where its at now.  I disagree with this, and I've seen this being said a few times.  The album's major flaw is Britney's singing voice being sliced, diced, and shredded in favor of Myah Marie.   BJ could have broken sales records and would've still been viewed as the colossal mess it turned out to be. It's just not a good album worth defending outside of "Work Bitch." 

 

I'm so ready for B9 to wash away the stench of her "most personal album." It's the '07 VMA performance of her albums.    :prettay:

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Britney isn't like Rihanna or Zayn who are super visible to the GP and everyone knows what they're doing.

As far as the GP are concerned Britney is in Vegas and thats it. No one outside fans is knows what she's up to.

 

Britney needs a "I'm Back Bitches" moment to become relevant to the GP again and raise her profile. A few late night talk shows with a few viral 'bits' will get her back in peoples minds (if she did carpool karaoke or falcon's musical impressions shit it'd blow up for sure) and people would actually listen to her single when it comes out.

 

Ziggy's flopped cause no one really cares & no one's interested in a new single from her. No amount of promo can save that. 

 

I do want some great promo and it will definitely help in some ways, but I just made this thread to point out that promo doesn't always help. Britney did the BBMAs and PG still flopped because it was shit. She needs quality music and a good marketing strategy. A carpool karaoke would be epic, but it will never happen. I do hope that she shows off her personality in at least one late night interview / bit. Fallon would be good.

[PsychoMonkey]

Team is at #95 on iTunes now

Its no where to be found on the Billboard Top 100 charts

[MakeMySugarFall]

It's fun, but it's just not very good 

It was very safe and cheesy, and Britney is known for producing quality pop music. She was always forward-thinking and different. PG could have been released by any flop pop artist. That was the major issue with Byron Jade, too. The music was just not up to the level that Britney is known to offer. 

I always say this. That album was so "standard pop" that it could've been released by any average pop artist. Britney is too big, popular, has broken too many records, etc. to release something like that and expect it to go well. People, and not just her fans, expect more than that from her.