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I mean for me it would have to be her least cohesive album. We had so many different producers so many different styles do you think it was this factor that ultimately sealed the albums fate?

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I think it was that main cook.

 

Will I AM lost his freshness well before he started working with Brit.  S&S was a success because of the different role it took for Britney.

 

Though I am a huge fan, many of those songs felt dated.  Or something she had already moved past.

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Yes, I mean, the album is not cohesive. But tbh, I don't think it was meant to be.

The songs are all different musically to go with the lyrics. Perfume as a ballad, Alien mid-tempo, and Tik Tik as a hip-hop banger.

In a way, all the songs are different to be "pieces" of why we love Britney :)

Although I'm not that into EDM music, if Britney made a personal album AND made it cohesive, let's face it, it would be a boring album.

I still think BJ is one of her best. :bj:

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Yes, I mean, the album is not cohesive. But tbh, I don't think it was meant to be.

The songs are all different musically to go with the lyrics. Perfume as a ballad, Alien mid-tempo, and Tik Tik as a hip-hop banger.

In a way, all the songs are different to be "pieces" of why we love Britney :)

 

This.

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How the fuck did will.i.am go from Don't Phunk With My Heart & Imma Be to It Should Be Easy?

He has really lost his some of his realness over these years with his whole mindset on making futuristic and forward music and all that.

 

Where is the Love, will.i.am? :crying3:

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He has really lost his some of his realness over these years with his whole mindset on making futuristic and forward music and all that.

 

Where is the Love, will.i.am? :crying3:

 

He used to be a great producer, I am a huge fan of The Black Eyed Peas and if he only created something like this for Brinny.. 

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I love the fact the songs are so different. I mean, who expected the singles to be Work Bitch and Perfume? :)

 

I REALLY wish they had used the deaming mix instead. I cant even really listen to the version they used.

 

:idgitbh: Tbh? No. I think it's the total opposite.

 

Will.i.make.u.flop took control of everything, cut out most of the producers and "co-produced" 11 or so songs. 

 

So, yeah, I don't agree with you. :dontlike:

 

:hannah:

Isn't that the point of an executive producer?

 

I have to say a few of the dance tracks (Body Ache, Tik Tik Boom) are really boring. I wish she had replaced those with better dance tracks. I'm sure she has recorded much better dance tracks. The ballads are great or at least well done.

Im with you on body ache. I do actually really like TTB though. 

 

I dont know. I think you can be cohesive without being boring. Cohesive doesn't mean that all the tracks have to sound alike or be all uptempo or ballads it just means that they blend and mix well and compliment eachother. I mean, we love her other albums dont we? They are all pretty cohesive. Britney Jean seems (to me) to be the most debated and polarized album shes ever released in terms of fan opinions.

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Isn't that the point of an executive producer?

 

 

 

I dont know. I think you can be cohesive without being boring. Cohesive doesn't mean that all the tracks have to sound alike or be all uptempo or ballads it just means that they blend and mix well and compliment eachother. I mean, we love her other albums dont we? They are all pretty cohesive. Britney Jean seems (to me) to be the most debated and polarized album shes ever released in terms of fan opinions.

No. An executive producer is the one responsible to make the album cohesive, not to produce most of the songs on it. Greatest examples are Blackout (Britney herself) and Circus (Larry and Teresa).

 

And completely agree with the second paragraph! :mhm:

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I mean for me it would have to be her least cohesive album. We had so many different producers so many different styles do you think it was this factor that ultimately sealed the albums fate?

 

I agree that the album wasn't cohesive.

 

I think the problem wasn't that it was all over the place it's that it was too short and had too many balladish/slow songs. Perfume.. ok.. but Hold Tight, Don't Cry, Passenger, Chillin, Brightest Morning Star.. These are all songs I could have done without. :who:

 

I think a Britney Ballad every now and then is good, but let's face it.. Britney is a dance/pop/urbanpop artist and that's when she's at her best.  :dealwitit:

 

Obvi, I wish B&A and Max Martin had played a role in BJ, or even Danja... So it's not my fav album of hers.. that being said, Work Bitch is one of her best! Instant Classic and I think Alien, Perfume, BA, TIG, & TTB are awesome great Britney songs!  :fyea:

 

Fav Britney albums:

1. Blackout

2. Femme Fatale

3. In The Zone

4. Britney

5. Circus

6. Oops

7. Britney Jean

8.BOMT

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No. An executive producer is the one responsible to make the album cohesive, not to produce most of the songs on it. Greatest examples are Blackout (Britney herself) and Circus (Larry and Teresa).

 

And completely agree with the second paragraph! :mhm:

 

I think Britney Jean might have ended up rushed too especially with Vegas. I mean look at how many tracks she recorded for other albums, maybe she didn't have the time with BJ and put together what they had? 

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I think Britney Jean might have ended up rushed too especially with Vegas. I mean look at how many tracks she recorded for other albums, maybe she didn't have the time with BJ and put together what they had? 

 

Oh that's for sure, you can bet your derriere on it. It even showed in IABJ how freaking upset Adam was because of the album and referred to it as a "waste of time" (not with those words, of course). The standard version had 10 songs :thefuck: What's up with that?! :icanttt:

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Oh that's for sure, you can bet your derriere on it. It even showed in IABJ how freaking upset Adam was because of the album and referred to it as a "waste of time" (not with those words, of course). The standard version had 10 songs :thefuck: What's up with that?! :icanttt:

I mean I know they were trying to get it out before the Vegas deadline but they would have been better off to release a little Vegas promo collection of, like, 4 songs than a rushed half done album if thats the case or just not until later. *sigh* 

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I mean I know they were trying to get it out before the Vegas deadline but they would have been better off to release a little Vegas promo collection of, like, 4 songs than a rushed half done album if thats the case or just not until later. *sigh* 

One can only dream now. :crying3:

 

But I don't wanna dream about all the things that never were, and maybe I can live without... :crying1:

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BJ is not sonically cohesive and the songs aren't in the order that best represents them imo. But the songs do lead themselves to a thematic cohesion if they would reorder them. For some reason Circus also had a order issue. 

 

I think the main problem with BJ is that Will i am went off doing his own thing and left the album to actually be EPed by Anthony Preston. Who has no skill as a general manager :P

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