(Final Round) Battle Of The Eras - 'in The Zone' Era Vs 'circus' Era

[JocastaIsYoMama]

http://youtu.be/17YFOUU3qNY

Basic and boring af if current Britney ever refund this performance she sound get so dragged but this is wat I'm talkin about nostalgia makes ppl delusional that tour wasn't THAT good and there's way more

http://youtu.be/4RWeZVdj4Pw

Another boring ass performance with minimal basic dancing that current Britney would be dragged for

Shall I go on? And tomh on circus shits on onyx

 

If you think those performances of The Hook Up and Showdown are basic and boring then I know we have nothing further to discuss   I love old & current Britney, but Onyx Hotel was an incredible tour with more intricate and consistent dancing than anything she has done since 

 

Circus was fun and well-designed, but she walked through every performance. There isn't a single performance with impressive dancing during Circus. Yes, TOMH was amazing on that tour, it was the highlight of the show... but that's one single performance. I actually think Onyx Hotel has the weakest TOMH performance because I love the Circus and POM versions. But the rest of Onyx shits all over Circus - Boys, Overprotected, Slave, The Hook Up, MATM, etc. all have incredible choreo, and Britney's attitude was on-point throughout. 

 

And not every performance has to have intricate choreo to be great: the cabaret version of BOMT / Oops / Crazy, for example, were sexy as hell and great performances but they weren't especially intricate. I saw the Circus tour twice and it was fun and great, but it lacked anything exceptional on Britney's part. 

[Dragneel]

Guys, for real now...Do we seriously need to defend an era from Britney in her peak against an era when Britney was still fucked up???

Seriously???

[Padme501st]

Britney chewed gum throughout most of the Circus Tour. She wasn't even bothering to hide it. I love the Circus Tour but seriously how can it be better than pre-knee surgery Britney? I liked the concept and stage of Circus better but in the end, Onyx is better because she tried more.

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Guys, for real now...Do we seriously need to defend an era from Britney in her peak against an era when Britney was still fucked up???

Seriously???

 

Fucked up? I think you're being a bit dramatic... But, yes, I mean I can sort of see why some people would prefer the Circus era for the nostalgia factor (it was her comeback.) But it's funny how some people here resort to cheap, silly, arguments to prove their point and think they're 'spilling tea' by calling certain ITZ era performances boring when we all know Britney delivered some of the worst performances (certainly the most boring) of her career during the Circus era. ITZ was Britney at her creative peak in terms of trying new music, writing, delivering incredible visuals, etc. Her performances at that time were 100x better than the Circus era, I'm not sure how anyone could try to argue otherwise. 

 

How can you logically compare this:  

 

to this: 

 

 

Or this: 

 

 

to this: 

 

[mslove101]

Fucked up? I think you're being a bit dramatic... But, yes, I mean I can sort of see why some people would prefer the Circus era for the nostalgia factor (it was her comeback.) But it's funny how some people here resort to cheap, silly, arguments to prove their point and think they're 'spilling tea' by calling certain ITZ era performances boring when we all know Britney delivered some of the worst performances (certainly the most boring) of her career during the Circus era. ITZ was Britney at her creative peak in terms of trying new music, writing, delivering incredible visuals, etc. Her performances at that time were 100x better than the Circus era, I'm not sure how anyone could try to argue otherwise.

How can you logically compare this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSwn0rk_xWI

to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2AFhj9DQAI

Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO21yyiuQTg

to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqu7KOyOD5Q

Bitch plz Pom on the circus tour, get naked, bomt, toxic, radar, etc are phenomenal performances u call that basic ass the hook up and showdown performance amazing but have the nerve to shade one of Britney's best shows primeney was a phenomenal performer but I hate that ppl like u think that Britney has never topped her former self in recent years there are PLENTY of performances she did that are better than some of her older performances...toxic on onyx she opened her tour standing on top a prop for 3 mins and did 10 secs of dancing that's the type of shit that she gets UNFAIRLY ripped apart for now

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Bitch plz Pom on the circus tour, get naked, bomt, toxic, radar, etc are phenomenal performances u call that basic ass the hook up and showdown performance amazing but have the nerve to shade one of Britney's best shows primeney was a phenomenal performer but I hate that ppl like u think that Britney has never topped her former self in recent years there are PLENTY of performances she did that are better than some of her older performances...toxic on onyx she opened her tour standing on top a prop for 3 mins and did 10 secs of dancing that's the type of shit that she gets UNFAIRLY ripped apart for now

 

Why you so salty? You're entitled to your opinion, sis... Piece of Me on Circus Tour is a sexy performance, but all she's doing is sitting down and shimmying. Get Naked was, again, sexy but it has 5 seconds of actual dancing and it's not very intricate. I've actually always said that the Toxic OHT performance is over-rated especially because she slayed all the Toxic promo performances so hard, but the breakdown there is incredible. Nothing on The Circus Tour came close to that in terms of speed & execution... 

 

 

The Circus BOMT performance is a mess, gorl. 

 

Toxic was fun, Radar was fun... but again, there's no actual dancing there. Like I said, I went twice and I loved the tour, I really enjoyed it... but when you compare it to OHT, there really wasn't anything to it. It's all hair flips, hand movements, ass-shaking and walking from stage A to stage B. Plus, she was half-assing a lot of the time. I think POM is a huge step forward for her (especially over the last year) and she's doing some of her best choreo in years. But, for me, the Circus era is nowhere near ITZ era in terms of music quality, videos, promo, interviews, and especially performances. 

[Domino]

Bitch plz Pom on the circus tour, get naked, bomt, toxic, radar, etc are phenomenal performances u call that basic ass the hook up and showdown performance amazing but have the nerve to shade one of Britney's best shows primeney was a phenomenal performer but I hate that ppl like u think that Britney has never topped her former self in recent years there are PLENTY of performances she did that are better than some of her older performances...toxic on onyx she opened her tour standing on top a prop for 3 mins and did 10 secs of dancing that's the type of shit that she gets UNFAIRLY ripped apart for now

 

lol

 

if you think anything done in TCSBS was better than Onyx. She was not into TCSBS one bit.

 

but you're not gonna be swayed, and neither am i.

 

for my sanity i just had to point out how wrong you are. so so wrong.

[Dragneel]

Fucked up? I think you're being a bit dramatic... But, yes, I mean I can sort of see why some people would prefer the Circus era for the nostalgia factor (it was her comeback.) But it's funny how some people here resort to cheap, silly, arguments to prove their point and think they're 'spilling tea' by calling certain ITZ era performances boring when we all know Britney delivered some of the worst performances (certainly the most boring) of her career during the Circus era. ITZ was Britney at her creative peak in terms of trying new music, writing, delivering incredible visuals, etc. Her performances at that time were 100x better than the Circus era, I'm not sure how anyone could try to argue otherwise. 

 

How can you logically compare this:  

 

to this: 

 

 

Or this: 

 

 

to this: 

 

I'm aware that it sounds a bit harsh but Britney wasn't mentally ready for a tour then.

She didn't give a shit about performing...

She chewed gum throughout the show...

She was freaking out with her fans...

I mean one day she is in a clinic, having one meltdown after another and the next day she is releasing a new album and planning a tour? Everything was forced by her team to make people forget the drama...

 

Sometimes you need to resort to exaggerations to make a point...!

[mslove101]

lol

if you think anything done in TCSBS was better than Onyx. She was not into TCSBS one bit.

but you're not gonna be swayed, and neither am i.

for my sanity i just had to point out how wrong you are. so so wrong.

Not into it? U clearly didn't watch that tour she clearly wasn't feeling onyx and she admitted it later and wrong for not agreeing with u foh circus ERA remains better than itz b/c itz is an incomplete era bye bitch

[Brian.TheDog]

lol

 

if you think anything done in TCSBS was better than Onyx. She was not into TCSBS one bit.

 

but you're not gonna be swayed, and neither am i.

 

for my sanity i just had to point out how wrong you are. so so wrong.

 

onyx is the most stale/bland tour there is on par with FF  - not talking about the dancing

[mslove101]

Why you so salty? You're entitled to your opinion, sis... Piece of Me on Circus Tour is a sexy performance, but all she's doing is sitting down and shimmying. Get Naked was, again, sexy but it has 5 seconds of actual dancing and it's not very intricate. I've actually always said that the Toxic OHT performance is over-rated especially because she slayed all the Toxic promo performances so hard, but the breakdown there is incredible. Nothing on The Circus Tour came close to that in terms of speed & execution...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge-KmL7LLWw

The Circus BOMT performance is a mess, gorl.

Toxic was fun, Radar was fun... but again, there's no actual dancing there. Like I said, I went twice and I loved the tour, I really enjoyed it... but when you compare it to OHT, there really wasn't anything to it. It's all hair flips, hand movements, ass-shaking and walking from stage A to stage B. Plus, she was half-assing a lot of the time. I think POM is a huge step forward for her (especially over the last year) and she's doing some of her best choreo in years. But, for me, the Circus era is nowhere near ITZ era in terms of music quality, videos, promo, interviews, and especially performances.

Sweetie u called that tour basic and it was an overall better show and success than onyx u will not discredit the hard work she put into it. and "shimming" kind of how she stood still half of oops vma performance and whipped her hair shook her ass and "shimmied" yet it's an iconic performance...just b/c she danced better during her prime doesn't automatically make her performances better foh just b/c u didn't see her effort doesn't mean she didn't put it she was VERY energetic and "into" it I watched her progress from the beginning of that tour to the end and that's b/c she worked HARD that's my problem u don't have to discredit her to make onyx look better b/c I'm a dancer myself and there's nothing "intricate" or "complex" about that basic ass showdown and hook up performance Bye

U britards need to stop acting like primeney danced all the way thru all of her shows she had plenty of simple performances some of which where boring as fuck which is FINE I lived it and I wasn't impressed by onyx it was her worst tour up until that point possibly from all those boring ass mid temple onyx songs

[mslove101]

onyx is the most stale/bland tour there is on par with FF - not talking about the dancing

Yasssss come thru sis that shit is boring as hell all the way thru especially that annoying ass fat weirdo Idc how great she danced at some parts the tour was boring

[Domino]

Not into it? U clearly didn't watch that tour she clearly wasn't feeling onyx and she admitted it later and wrong for not agreeing with u foh circus ERA remains better than onyx b/c onyx is an incomplete era bye bitch

 

 lol actually I'm obsessed with the Miami concert.

 

I was gonna make a comment about us just agreeing to disagree and us coming together in Brit Army sisterhood but then you called me a bitch. QQ

I do agree it's an incomplete era. Actually- funny story- I originally voted Circus because of the FTR doc and also the fact that ITZ era encompassed the canceled tour, the underrated album (I loved it but the critics didn't unanimously) the knee injury, the incomplete singles cycle, and it all ended into a burning crash of K-Fed mess.

 

So, really, we are not so different, you and I. She seemed really really into the tour and the album and the performances in the beginning, and that's where my vote mostly originated.

 

I just don't understand how people can call any of the Onyx Tour performances boring. But..we all have assholes...I mean opinions. ;-) (both, actually)

 

They are just two very polarizing eras. That's why they are Final Two. Serious business, y'all.

[Domino]

Sweetie u called that tour basic and it was an overall better show and success than onyx u will not discredit the hard work she put into it. and "shimming" kind of how she stood still half of oops vma performance and whipped her hair shook her ass and "shimmied" yet it's an iconic performance...just b/c she danced better during her prime doesn't automatically make her performances better foh just b/c u didn't see her effort doesn't mean she didn't put it she was VERY energetic and "into" it I watched her progress from the beginning of that tour to the end and that's b/c she worked HARD that's my problem u don't have to discredit her to make onyx look better b/c I'm a dancer myself and there's nothing "intricate" or "complex" about that basic ass showdown and hook up performance Bye

U britards need to stop acting like primeney danced all the way thru all of her shows she had plenty of simple performances some of which where boring as fuck which is FINE I lived it and I wasn't impressed by onyx it was her worst tour up until that point possibly from all those boring ass mid temple onyx songs

 

I lived it, too, and was slayed. *kanye shrug* We are all literally never going to agree or be able to sway each other. 

One thing, though. Having a favorite era doesn't make one a "Britard". That's why we're all here, to discuss and be passionate about the girl we love. I don't understand how these things always devolve into petty name-calling and everyone trying to out-sass the other with their hairflip and tea sipping emoji's. It's not even interesting conversation at that point.

 

EDIT: That's not just pointed at solely at you. This happens constantly in internet forums.

[mslove101]

lol actually I'm obsessed with the Miami concert.

I was gonna make a comment about us just agreeing to disagree and us coming together in Brit Army sisterhood but then you called me a bitch. QQ

I do agree it's an incomplete era. Actually- funny story- I originally voted Circus because of the FTR doc and also the fact that ITZ era encompassed the canceled tour, the underrated album (I loved it but the critics didn't unanimously) the knee injury, the incomplete singles cycle, and it all ended into a burning crash of K-Fed mess.

So, really, we are not so different, you and I. She seemed really really into the tour and the album and the performances in the beginning, and that's where my vote mostly originated.

I just don't understand how people can call any of the Onyx Tour performances boring. But..we all have assholes...I mean opinions. ;-) (both, actually)

They are just two very polarizing eras. That's why they are Final Two. Serious business, y'all.

I'm not here for "she did nothing better in circus era than in itz" b/c it's not true and it's unfair to Britney who gave the best she could considering her circumstances she's a person and it irks my nerves b/c there's plenty of things she done even during ff that I felt were just as great and sometimes better than in her prime but some of her shit fans refuse to see it to say she wasn't into circus is a damn lie and I'm not here for it and Britney taught us that Bitch is a term of endearment

[Domino]

I'm not here for "she did nothing better in circus era than in itz" b/c it's not true and it's unfair to Britney who gave the best she could considering her circumstances she's a person and it irks my nerves b/c there's slot of things she done even during itz that I felt were just as great and sometimes better than in her prime but some of her shit fans refuse to see it to say she wasn't into circus is a damn lie and I'm not here for it and Britney taught us that Bitch is a term of endearment

 

Last sentence: You are right. Bitch. :-D (I meant that in the Britney way)

 

I also agree with your first sentence- that's why it was a hard decision in my book because they both had their merits.

 

And I totally feel you about the Circus performances. I retract what I said about her not being into it- I of all people know what psych meds and anxiety can do for a person. I will forever love and respect Britney for what she came through and for getting back on the horse so quickly.

 

I like them both equally. But there's no option for that. :-(

[mslove101]

I lived it, too, and was slayed. *kanye shrug* We are all literally never going to agree or be able to sway each other.

One thing, though. Having a favorite era doesn't make one a "Britard". That's why we're all here, to discuss and be passionate about the girl we love. I don't understand how these things always devolve into petty name-calling and everyone trying to out-sass the other with their hairflip and tea sipping emoji's. It's not even interesting conversation at that point.

EDIT: That's not just pointed at solely at you. This happens constantly in internet forums.

I will defend Britney when ppl are shitting on her work ethnic i got banned for not being here for halfassney and stiffney but to say she wasn't in the circus era ONE bit....the girl freaking CRIED during the opening night lookin at all those ppl who came out to support her....that's y she said there's so much more pressure now to just do ha

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Sweetie u called that tour basic and it was an overall better show and success than onyx u will not discredit the hard work she put into it. and "shimming" kind of how she stood still half of oops vma performance and whipped her hair shook her ass and "shimmied" yet it's an iconic performance...just b/c she danced better during her prime doesn't automatically make her performances better foh just b/c u didn't see her effort doesn't mean she didn't put it she was VERY energetic and "into" it I watched her progress from the beginning of that tour to the end and that's b/c she worked HARD that's my problem u don't have to discredit her to make onyx look better b/c I'm a dancer myself and there's nothing "intricate" or "complex" about that basic ass showdown and hook up performance Bye

U britards need to stop acting like primeney danced all the way thru all of her shows she had plenty of simple performances some of which where boring as fuck which is FINE I lived it and I wasn't impressed by onyx it was her worst tour up until that point possibly from all those boring ass mid temple onyx songs

 

I really thought you were an intelligent and fun poster, but you pull the same shit as every other illogical troll here... as soon as someone disagree with you, you call them Britards. You don't even read what I say and just respond with the same shit over and over. Why can't Britney fans just have conversations without being salty bitches? Where did I say she had to dance all the way through every performance? I said I loved the cabaret section of Onyx, I said I said I loved the TOMH and POM performances during Circus... those don't have intricate dancing. You're the one who came in here trying to discredit Onyx Hotel by (repeatedly) calling out THE SAME TWO PERFORMANCES, Showdown and Hook Up, as being basic before I even spoke about it + said Toxic was overrated because she only dances one breakdown, so I compared those to the basic-ass performances during Circus (aka all of them...) Like I said, your opinion is your opinion... that's fine, but you need to at least try to follow a logical train of thought if you want to communicate a point, boo     Especially if you're gonna be a cunt and act like you're spilling some tea. 

Again, you go and call out Showdown and The Hook Up - there is nothing during the Circus tour as challenging as the Toxic breakdown, Boys, Slave, Overprotected, or Outrageous choreo from the Onyx tour. If you were a dancer ( ) you'd know that. I said over and over that I like The Circus Tour: I like all of her tours. I think FF is easily the worst, but Circus is near the bottom for me. I lived through every era, and ITZ - to me - is the most special. Yes, she improved over the course of Circus, but it doesn't change the fact that aside from the production, Britney herself didn't really shine during that era. She chewed gum on stage, walked through performances, and there wasn't any single piece of memorable choreo (which she is known for.) The theme was executed well, but Onyx Hotel was more original and had far superior performances on every level. 

 

Tours aside (this thread isn't about the tours...) MY OPINION is that everything about the ITZ era was better: interviews, the music, her creativity & input in the album, the videos, promo performances, etc. Circus is a fun pop record, but it was a regression in every way from her last two albums and in terms of a pure pop record, it's not as good was what came next (FF). Again, that's MY OPINION. I have nothing but respect for Britney for getting back on her feet during the Circus era, but that alone isn't enough to make it a better era - for me - than ITZ, which I see as her peak creatively. You're free to disagree. But that's the end of my input to this thread.... judging by the poll, the majority of fans agree   

[mslove101]

Last sentence: You are right. Bitch. :-D (I meant that in the Britney way)

I also agree with your first sentence- that's why it was a hard decision in my book because they both had their merits.

And I totally feel you about the Circus performances. I retract what I said about her not being into it- I of all people know what psych meds and anxiety can do for a person. I will forever love and respect Britney for what she came through and for getting back on the horse so quickly.

I like them both equally. But there's no option for that. :-(

So glad u can admit u like onyx without shitting on circus we all are here to support Britney and honestly the fact that our fave can make us this passionate about her different eras speaks volumes about how amazing she is period

[mslove101]

I really thought you were an intelligent and fun poster, but you pull the same shit as every other illogical troll here... as soon as someone disagree with you, you call them Britards. You don't even read what I say and just respond with the same shit over and over. Why can't Britney fans just have conversations without being salty bitches? Where did I say she had to dance all the way through every performance? I said I loved the cabaret section of Onyx, I said I said I loved the TOMH and POM performances during Circus... those don't have intricate dancing. You're the one who came in here trying to discredit Onyx Hotel by (repeatedly) calling out THE SAME TWO PERFORMANCES, Showdown and Hook Up, as being basic before I even spoke about it + said Toxic was overrated because she only dances one breakdown, so I compared those to the basic-ass performances during Circus (aka all of them...) Like I said, your opinion is your opinion... that's fine, but you need to at least try to follow a logical train of thought if you want to communicate a point, boo Especially if you're gonna be a cunt and act like you're spilling some tea.

Again, you go and call out Showdown and The Hook Up - there is nothing during the Circus tour as challenging as the Toxic breakdown, Boys, Slave, Overprotected, or Outrageous choreo from the Onyx tour. If you were a dancer ( ) you'd know that. I said over and over that I like The Circus Tour: I like all of her tours. I think FF is easily the worst, but Circus is near the bottom for me. I lived through every era, and ITZ - to me - is the most special. Yes, she improved over the course of Circus, but it doesn't change the fact that aside from the production, Britney herself didn't really shine during that era. She chewed gum on stage, walked through performances, and there wasn't any single piece of memorable choreo (which she is known for.) The theme was executed well, but Onyx Hotel was more original and had far superior performances on every level.

Tours aside (this thread isn't about the tours...) MY OPINION is that everything about the ITZ era was better: interviews, the music, her creativity & input in the album, the videos, promo performances, etc. Circus is a fun pop record, but it was a regression in every way from her last two albums and in terms of a pure pop record, it's not as good was what came next (FF). Again, that's MY OPINION. I have nothing but respect for Britney for getting back on her feet during the Circus era, but that alone isn't enough to make it a better era - for me - than ITZ, which I see as her peak creatively. You're free to disagree. But that's the end of my input to this thread.... judging by the poll, the majority of fans agree

Bitch I'm not reading all that thanks for wasting your time writing it

[PopMusicJunkie]

Itz had a boring album, bad press, and a cancelled tour that was already boring before it was cancelled :prettay:

 

These are the last words I'd use to describe this era and it's not even my favorite.   But @@JocastaIsYoMama flawlessly scalped so whatever. :prettay:

[JocastaIsYoMama]

Itz had a boring album, bad press, and a cancelled tour that was already boring before it was cancelled  :prettay:

 

 

no just no   itz era had a boring album full of fillers like early morning, brave new girl, showdown etc. ftr shits on any Britney interview and tv special ever 

So glad u can admit u like onyx without shitting on circus 

 

 

the hypocrisy of you coming in this thread and shitting on ITZ immediately and then trying to call out others for criticizing Circus 

[mslove101]

the hypocrisy of you coming in this thread and shitting on ITZ immediately and then trying to call out others for criticizing Circus

Bitch I shitted on it when u discredited her effort

[mslove101]

These are the last words I'd use to describe this era and it's not even my favorite. But @@JocastaIsYoMama flawlessly scalped so whatever. :prettay:

Bitch plz read the reviews for that tragic album :prettay:

[Darkhorse]

I really thought you were an intelligent and fun poster, but you pull the same shit as every other illogical troll here... as soon as someone disagree with you, you call them Britards. You don't even read what I say and just respond with the same shit over and over. Why can't Britney fans just have conversations without being salty bitches? Where did I say she had to dance all the way through every performance? I said I loved the cabaret section of Onyx, I said I said I loved the TOMH and POM performances during Circus... those don't have intricate dancing. You're the one who came in here trying to discredit Onyx Hotel by (repeatedly) calling out THE SAME TWO PERFORMANCES, Showdown and Hook Up, as being basic before I even spoke about it + said Toxic was overrated because she only dances one breakdown, so I compared those to the basic-ass performances during Circus (aka all of them...) Like I said, your opinion is your opinion... that's fine, but you need to at least try to follow a logical train of thought if you want to communicate a point, boo Especially if you're gonna be a cunt and act like you're spilling some tea.

Again, you go and call out Showdown and The Hook Up - there is nothing during the Circus tour as challenging as the Toxic breakdown, Boys, Slave, Overprotected, or Outrageous choreo from the Onyx tour. If you were a dancer ( ) you'd know that. I said over and over that I like The Circus Tour: I like all of her tours. I think FF is easily the worst, but Circus is near the bottom for me. I lived through every era, and ITZ - to me - is the most special. Yes, she improved over the course of Circus, but it doesn't change the fact that aside from the production, Britney herself didn't really shine during that era. She chewed gum on stage, walked through performances, and there wasn't any single piece of memorable choreo (which she is known for.) The theme was executed well, but Onyx Hotel was more original and had far superior performances on every level.

Tours aside (this thread isn't about the tours...) MY OPINION is that everything about the ITZ era was better: interviews, the music, her creativity & input in the album, the videos, promo performances, etc. Circus is a fun pop record, but it was a regression in every way from her last two albums and in terms of a pure pop record, it's not as good was what came next (FF). Again, that's MY OPINION. I have nothing but respect for Britney for getting back on her feet during the Circus era, but that alone isn't enough to make it a better era - for me - than ITZ, which I see as her peak creatively. You're free to disagree. But that's the end of my input to this thread.... judging by the poll, the majority of fans agree

Educate ha sis

I came to this forum thinking it was light years ahead of exhell and honestly found myself liking it there more. You call out your opinion yet get called a britard for sharing your love for a certain era or song. Who calls someone a britard on a Britney forum? Literally anything that has some bashing is called spilling the tea on every thread. This place is filling up with a lot of hate lately