Glory debuted at #3 in the US

[edurance]

well, the first single was a bit weak for a britney comeback. the video debacle didn't exactly help (you can't support an album release with that shit video when you are britney fucking spears). and the carpool karaoke and vma's performance didn't help the release at all (quite the opposite). but the album is pure gold, i'll give her that

[Caroline77]

Some people expected her to sell +600k or what ? 

The girl is in the industry since almost 20 years, she's coming from flop after flop and FF era where's she was a dead performer and BJ era had 0 exposure. So right now with her situation we cant expect miracles, only damage control. So +115k which is the number of current popstars is actually great considering the facts, she isnt doing worse and it can only do better. Selling lot of albums is an exception nowadays, that's not what gives them money now, that's why they tour.

The most important is longevity and i have no doubts it can do better than BJ in that way. Also MM is doing lot better than WB in the long run.

NOW,  the problem is she has to step up her game big time. After all the mess since 2011,  she cant just rely on sex and looking hot. We also cant expect people to praise her and be interested when all she does on stage is moving arms and lipsyncing. I can understand the "beaufitul but empty shell" comparisons because that's what she's showing to the world right now, and it's a shame because we know she's much more than that. I never thought i would say this but the promo right now is starting to make her more harm than good and it's not good for what's coming because the last thing we need is the gp turning against her and letting her down because they think she's talentless.

[josephthemerman]

9 hours ago, Universe>Exhale said:

Good for you Brit. And I'm glad some fans are looking only at the silver linings.

It is a victory to be sure but also leaves a lot of room for discussion and is a tad bittersweet.

 

The fact that Barbara Streisand passed Britney in the U.S. definitely speaks volumes about certain aspects of Britney's career. Barbara is a legacy artist and has a huge fan base that will buy everything she releases and in some ways so is Britney, but the fact that Barbara Streisand surpassed one of Britney's BEST records (And fans the world over know this) singing Broadway tunes is something that can't be ignored. Is Britney Spears over? No. Obviously not. She's an icon and a legend, but if this doesn't push her TEAM and especially HER to make some BIG bold video/promo moves than I don't know what will and we can probably assume she will just continue to sell less and less from here on out.

 

Before you guys have a go at me remember I bought Glory as did many fans (Most have purchased multiple copies) and it is one of my favorite Britney albums and I have streamed like there's no tomorrow.

 

BUT we can't ignore the elephant in the room. This album will struggle to even sell 300,000 copies at this rate and that is tragic. At best if the next video and single is solid it can maybe sell 250,000 but really this album deserves to go at least platinum.

 

I hope this serves as a wake up call to Britney and her team because she'll only continue to lose label support at this point (in terms of having a big promotional budget) - I hope they got some really big tricks up their sleeves and deliver some strong videos and/or performances to help "Glory" get the success it deserves, otherwise I guess this is where Britney is at now selling very close to what an act like Hilary Duff does...

 

And honestly I'm shocked no one's mentioning that Janet's last album "Unbreakable" sold more than "Glory", that my friends is something to seriously ponder and we all know why it's happened.

 

 

THIS! Finally someone who is real about the situation and is not delusional.

 

I mean Britney jean debuted at number 4... one less down the chart and it was a flop...  

but this album isn't? I mean when it came out (Britney Jean) everyone was obsessed, does that mean soon fans will call glory a flop to? 

 

I'm happy with all music she releases whether it chart's well or not, but I'm not delusional I'm very well aware that Britney can't get back to where she used to be.. ever again. But I still love and enjoy her and everything she does. I mean it's britney come on let's get over charting and labeling what's a flop and what's not, Enjoy her while we have her.

[Dragneel]

1 hour ago, josephthemerman said:

THIS! Finally someone who is real about the situation and is not delusional.

 

I mean Britney jean debuted at number 4... one less down the chart and it was a flop...  

but this album isn't? I mean when it came out (Britney Jean) everyone was obsessed, does that mean soon fans will call glory a flop to? 

 

I'm happy with all music she releases whether it chart's well or not, but I'm not delusional I'm very well aware that Britney can't get back to where she used to be.. ever again. But I still love and enjoy her and everything she does. I mean it's britney come on let's get over charting and labeling what's a flop and what's not, Enjoy her while we have her.

Well I wouldn't say they were obsessed with Britney Jean. After the 1st listen it sounded great to everyone. After the 3rd listen, all things wrong with the album were obvious. It was almost an instant hate.

 

And it's not a flop. It's released 3 years after Britney Jean and sold 10,000 more and also debuted slightly higher. Throughout her career she only did that with Circus!

Generally her album sales have constantly been decreasing...

[Nostalgia]

Is that better than Britney Jean? I hope so. This album is amazing. I wish it had sold more and that she was #1 in the US. Bleh.

[David]

11 hours ago, Universe>Exhale said:

Good for you Brit. And I'm glad some fans are looking only at the silver linings.

It is a victory to be sure but also leaves a lot of room for discussion and is a tad bittersweet.

 

The fact that Barbara Streisand passed Britney in the U.S. definitely speaks volumes about certain aspects of Britney's career. Barbara is a legacy artist and has a huge fan base that will buy everything she releases and in some ways so is Britney, but the fact that Barbara Streisand surpassed one of Britney's BEST records (And fans the world over know this) singing Broadway tunes is something that can't be ignored. Is Britney Spears over? No. Obviously not. She's an icon and a legend, but if this doesn't push her TEAM and especially HER to make some BIG bold video/promo moves than I don't know what will and we can probably assume she will just continue to sell less and less from here on out.

 

Before you guys have a go at me remember I bought Glory as did many fans (Most have purchased multiple copies) and it is one of my favorite Britney albums and I have streamed like there's no tomorrow.

 

BUT we can't ignore the elephant in the room. This album will struggle to even sell 300,000 copies at this rate and that is tragic. At best if the next video and single is solid it can maybe sell 250,000 but really this album deserves to go at least platinum.

 

I hope this serves as a wake up call to Britney and her team because she'll only continue to lose label support at this point (in terms of having a big promotional budget) - I hope they got some really big tricks up their sleeves and deliver some strong videos and/or performances to help "Glory" get the success it deserves, otherwise I guess this is where Britney is at now selling very close to what an act like Hilary Duff does...

 

And honestly I'm shocked no one's mentioning that Janet's last album "Unbreakable" sold more than "Glory", that my friends is something to seriously ponder and we all know why it's happened.

 

 

 

Except... not really. Barbra was behind Britney on the counting chart by miles and her actual sales were so much lower UNTIL they included Barbra's sales from her tour ticket bundle. That gave her an enormous boost and shot her to #1. It's just clever marketing, nothing else. 

 

Britney Jean, at Britney's worst musically, sold 700K worldwide which gives me higher hopes for Glory. Is she going to pass a million sales mark in the US? no, she won't, but with streaming included we might actually cross one million sales worldwide this time around and isn't that exciting?

 

The fact that Britney, twenty years into her career and without juicy ticket bundles, managed to outsell so many of the current and major acts like Meghan, Sia, Fifth Harmony, Selena, Demi is absolutely amazing. The industry isn't the same anymore, with a few exceptions for people like Adele, Taylor and Beyonce sales really aren't that high. Even Rihanna who is the worlds biggest pop star right now sold only like 55K more. This says a lot. Selling close to what Hillary Duff sells? on what fucking planet? Hillary sold 39K first week. Glory would've gone #1 on a quiet week and those numbers are extremely respectable. 

 

And your argument about Janet and Unbreakable selling more... really? Unbreakable was Janet's first record in almost 9 years and she hasn't released anything since 2008. It also came with an announcement of a worldtour. Sure there was going to be more hype and anticipation. Britney was coming off a shit album and shit single (Pretty Girls) when going into Glory era yet it only sold 1K less... so honestly, this comparison is unnecessary.

 

[Mr.Photographer]

12 hours ago, Universe>Exhale said:

 

Is it really that hard for people to fathom the concept of deference?

 

I didn't know I couldn't love a song but not a video.

I didn't know I couldn't love an album but not its promo.

I didn't know I couldn't purchase a product, and be a fan of someone but also be objective.

I didn't know that being honest meant being negative or that everything HAD to be so black and white.

 

I'm not trying to be contentious, I'm just being honest.

 

Let me try to explain something, for those who have difficulty grasping such concepts, in the most rudimentary way possible, with the most basic of analogies:

 

I love Meryl Streep, I think she's one of the greatest actresses ever. Do I love every movie she's in? No. I love Fiona Apple because I think she's a brilliant songwriter/artist, do I love everything she does performance-wise/video wise/single-wise? Hell, no. That doesn't mean I'm being negative, I just know what I like. I also generally love the movie director David Lynch, but he has a few movies that I don't really care for - does it make me any less of a fan? Pfft. That's ridiculous. Does it make me less of a fan of Britney's if I say that Fiona Apple is a better songwriter/singer? Perhaps, to some, but not to me. I love them both, but for very different reasons!

 

I believe the music on "Glory" is wonderful pop music, some of the best Britney's recorded in her career and a clear progression for her as an artist, and I think it deserves the absolute best. Do I care if it sells platinum? No. But I think the fact that it didn't sell that well, like I stated in my earlier post, merits some discussion and is quite bittersweet - and its going to effect her brand as a whole.

 

Let me ask people who think I'm being negative:

 

Do any of you guys think that her management and RCA are happy with the numbers that came out? That it surpassed their expectations for the record? Because truthfully, I think those numbers are more than disappointing for someone of Britney's caliber, but they are also more disappointing considering how great the material is! I'm fully aware of the state of the music industry, but if Janet Jackson can get her album to sell more than Britney's first week with a song that peaked in the top 60 on the hot 100, something clearly needs to change.

 

The headlines aren't going to be kind about this, this week and Britney already has enough bad press about the VMA's. Her label/Management need to push hard if Glory is going to have any longevity. I want it to. It deserves to. But the bigger issue is Britney as a pop star, because look at what Janet's label did to her after a series of under-performing records. They stopped giving her those decent promotional budgets for videos, etc...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nnnnnn

[DemExclusives]

115,922  is good, I'm happy with that  Would've been more if the original Make Me MV was released and the VMA performance was controversial but I'm happy with these numbers. I just wish her team was smart and didn't release it the same week as Barbra and FGL, she'd have another #1 album to her name if they were just smarter about the release date 

[DemExclusives]

4 hours ago, Nostalgia said:

Is that better than Britney Jean? I hope so. This album is amazing. I wish it had sold more and that she was #1 in the US. Bleh.

It's much better than BJ, especially when you take into account that album sales are hugely down 

[DemExclusives]

15 hours ago, Universe>Exhale said:

Good for you Brit. And I'm glad some fans are looking only at the silver linings.

It is a victory to be sure but also leaves a lot of room for discussion and is a tad bittersweet.

 

The fact that Barbara Streisand passed Britney in the U.S. definitely speaks volumes about certain aspects of Britney's career. Barbara is a legacy artist and has a huge fan base that will buy everything she releases and in some ways so is Britney, but the fact that Barbara Streisand surpassed one of Britney's BEST records (And fans the world over know this) singing Broadway tunes is something that can't be ignored. Is Britney Spears over? No. Obviously not. She's an icon and a legend, but if this doesn't push her TEAM and especially HER to make some BIG bold video/promo moves than I don't know what will and we can probably assume she will just continue to sell less and less from here on out.

 

Before you guys have a go at me remember I bought Glory as did many fans (Most have purchased multiple copies) and it is one of my favorite Britney albums and I have streamed like there's no tomorrow.

 

BUT we can't ignore the elephant in the room. This album will struggle to even sell 300,000 copies at this rate and that is tragic. At best if the next video and single is solid it can maybe sell 250,000 but really this album deserves to go at least platinum.

 

I hope this serves as a wake up call to Britney and her team because she'll only continue to lose label support at this point (in terms of having a big promotional budget) - I hope they got some really big tricks up their sleeves and deliver some strong videos and/or performances to help "Glory" get the success it deserves, otherwise I guess this is where Britney is at now selling very close to what an act like Hilary Duff does...

 

And honestly I'm shocked no one's mentioning that Janet's last album "Unbreakable" sold more than "Glory", that my friends is something to seriously ponder and we all know why it's happened.

 

 

• I see what you mean and you make some good points but I wouldn't have expected Glory to sell more than Barbra  She's a legend and she has a huge fanbase of all ages, she's not far off Michael Jackson level in terms of legacy. With that being said I do think she should've been able to sell more than Florida Georgia Line and Janet but I think she would have if the original MM video was released and/or the VMA performance was better  I can't stress how much of a missed opportunity that VMA performance was; she has great new material on her album and if she performed a little medley I really do think she'd get a huge boost to the album sales  Also if she released a second single before the album release I think it would have sold more and pushed the album to #1 but it wasn't to be I guess  Even if her team just chose to release the album on a week without Barbra and Florida Georgia Line, Glory would have been #1 with these numbers 

[coupureelectrique]

5 hours ago, josephthemerman said:

l I'm very well aware that Britney can't get back to where she used to be.. ever again.

Seriously wtf are you even doing here? are you just dumb or trolling? Or are you stuck in 2007?  
Just a friendly reminder that 9 years ago EVERYONE was saying what you just said and then Circus sold more than 500K in the US in the first week and TCSBS Tour was one of the most successful female tours EVER.  Then Femme Fatale had TERRIBLE promotion (she was DEAD while on stage and heavily criticized for it) and sold more than 200k first week in the US. Britney Jean was a flop not because it debuted at #4 but because internationally it failed hard and had almost no top 5 positions worldwide. On the other hand Glory is already a HUGE SUCCESS in Europe and some other countries. 

This album is damage control after the entire BJ + Pretty girls mess and it's working! We can't expect her to sell 500k 1st week with this album because the public is still not that into her after her last poor album. She's working on conquering the public again.

Seriously, with fans like these who needs haters? 

[coupureelectrique]

3 hours ago, David said:

The fact that Britney, twenty years into her career and without juicy ticket bundles, managed to outsell so many of the current and major acts like Meghan, Sia, Fifth Harmony, Selena, Demi is absolutely amazing.

 

EXACTLY!!! 

 

3 hours ago, David said:

Selling close to what Hillary Duff sells? on what fucking planet? Hillary sold 39K first week. Glory would've gone #1 on a quiet week and those numbers are extremely respectable. 

 

^^^ THIS! ^^^  I swear some people in here are such haters. They don't even know the #facts.

 

3 hours ago, David said:

Unbreakable was Janet's first record in almost 9 years and she hasn't released anything since 2008. It also came with an announcement of a worldtour. Sure there was going to be more hype and anticipation.

 

THANK YOU!!!! That's what I tried to explain.

This album wouldn't obviously be a big seller in the US because of the entire BJ mess. The fact that BJ and the terrible colaboration with Iggy Azealia didn't destroy her career and she managed to reach these good numbers really shows how Britney is still a powerful pop star in the US and even bigger outside of it.  I believe if she continues like this her next album will sell waaaaaay more. She need the pop fans to trust her again.

[DeniseBryson]

3 hours ago, David said:

 

Except... not really. Barbra was behind Britney on the counting chart by miles and her actual sales were so much lower UNTIL they included Barbra's sales from her tour ticket bundle. That gave her an enormous boost and shot her to #1. It's just clever marketing, nothing else. 

 

Britney Jean, at Britney's worst musically, sold 700K worldwide which gives me higher hopes for Glory. Is she going to pass a million sales mark in the US? no, she won't, but with streaming included we might actually cross one million sales worldwide this time around and isn't that exciting?

 

The fact that Britney, twenty years into her career and without juicy ticket bundles, managed to outsell so many of the current and major acts like Meghan, Sia, Fifth Harmony, Selena, Demi is absolutely amazing. The industry isn't the same anymore, with a few exceptions for people like Adele, Taylor and Beyonce sales really aren't that high. Even Rihanna who is the worlds biggest pop star right now sold only like 55K more. This says a lot. Selling close to what Hillary Duff sells? on what fucking planet? Hillary sold 39K first week. Glory would've gone #1 on a quiet week and those numbers are extremely respectable. 

 

And your argument about Janet and Unbreakable selling more... really? Unbreakable was Janet's first record in almost 9 years and she hasn't released anything since 2008. It also came with an announcement of a worldtour. Sure there was going to be more hype and anticipation. Britney was coming off a shit album and shit single (Pretty Girls) when going into Glory era yet it only sold 1K less... so honestly, this comparison is unnecessary.

 

 

LOL @ any argument about why Barbara outsold Glory. Regardless if there was a bundle deal she has FANS that went and bought her record. Period. She is how old again? And how far into her career? Obviously she's still relevant, if Britney packaged Glory with something else would that argument still apply? It's baseless because it just sounds like political spin. You can't spin facts to fit your narrative. Barbara who is 74 years old outsold Britney, period. Its a huge coup and says a lot about where Britney is at in her career, this wasn't a new release from Barbara this was her singing Broadway tunes, sit down.

 

And the Pretty Girls and Britney Jean argument is played out. Unless you're willing to acknowledge how bad Britney and her team have been at promoting "Glory" because I don't see anyone addressing that issue, it is but one of many.

 

You can't cherry pick. "Pretty Girls" was last year and Britney Jean was in 2013. Like I said in my earlier posts, I love the record and feel it deserves more in terms of a promotional campaign - quality wise. I love Britney's radio interviews and her magazine shoots this era but its clear her taped/live interviews and performances and the video for "Make Me" have had a massive negative impact on the music and are hindering her career.

 

Look at Madonna's image versus her music and how that's playing out. I think its something that fans have to acknowledge and discuss there is no reason to get angry about it.

 

 

 

[werkit89]

12 hours ago, edurance said:

well, the first single was a bit weak for a britney comeback. the video debacle didn't exactly help (you can't support an album release with that shit video when you are britney fucking spears). and the carpool karaoke and vma's performance didn't help the release at all (quite the opposite). but the album is pure gold, i'll give her that

The amount of views, likes compared to dislikes says otherwise 

[David]

4 hours ago, Universe>Exhale said:

 

LOL @ any argument about why Barbara outsold Glory. Regardless if there was a bundle deal she has FANS that went and bought her record. Period. She is how old again? And how far into her career? Obviously she's still relevant, if Britney packaged Glory with something else would that argument still apply? It's baseless because it just sounds like political spin. You can't spin facts to fit your narrative. Barbara who is 74 years old outsold Britney, period. Its a huge coup and says a lot about where Britney is at in her career, this wasn't a new release from Barbara this was her singing Broadway tunes, sit down.

 

 

 

 

I fully acknowledge Barbra's success and never tried to belittle it? It's a huge achievement for her regardless of the ticket bundle or not. But you are here claiming "Oh my God, Barbra in her 70s outsold Britney who is in her 30s and that kinda says something OMG she's kinda over now isn't she?" when the matter of fact is that it's all down to clever marketing and politics. If the tables were turned and Britney did a ticket bundle for her world-tour that made her go #1, I would be happy too. But just a quick glance at Barbra's discography page and you can see that even she had a long period in her career when her albums didn't quite top the charts (1997-2009). And look at her now. 

 

It says a lot about where Britney is at her career? Yeah, twenty years into it and still outselling current pop acts, still topping charts in countries that she hasn't before (Italy) and still getting the highest chart peaks in years in others (UK, Germany). Just stop. 

[josephthemerman]

10 hours ago, coupureelectrique said:

Seriously wtf are you even doing here? are you just dumb or trolling? Or are you stuck in 2007?  
Just a friendly reminder that 9 years ago EVERYONE was saying what you just said and then Circus sold more than 500K in the US in the first week and TCSBS Tour was one of the most successful female tours EVER.  Then Femme Fatale had TERRIBLE promotion (she was DEAD while on stage and heavily criticized for it) and sold more than 200k first week in the US. Britney Jean was a flop not because it debuted at #4 but because internationally it failed hard and had almost no top 5 positions worldwide. On the other hand Glory is already a HUGE SUCCESS in Europe and some other countries. 

This album is damage control after the entire BJ + Pretty girls mess and it's working! We can't expect her to sell 500k 1st week with this album because the public is still not that into her after her last poor album. She's working on conquering the public again.

Seriously, with fans like these who needs haters? 

Lmao relax ok!

 

First of all I would say I'm one of the few fans on here that don't care about charting and is REAL about situations, Britney's album sales decrease every time she releases an album. But I don't really care. I'm always her for her and the music, no matter if she flops or not, and it is true she can't get back to where she used to be, otherwise she would have been there. And with delusional fans like you we'll need a bigger bandwagon. 

[TheOriginalDollz]

20 hours ago, Freakboi said:

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I hope this is the wake up call to her, people it's getting tired. 

 Are you a fucking idiot? delete your account please . HOW IS TOP 3 A DISAPPOINTMENT ??!

 

 i SWEAR i HAD ENOUGH i FUCKING HATE SOME OF YOU.. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHY SHE HIDES!!! ALWAYS SO GOD DAMN CRITICAL OF HER!!!  TAKE THAT SHIT TO EX-HELL!!!

 

 

 

[TheOriginalDollz]

 Good Job Britney 15 years and girl still lands a top 3 , and who else has done that? Ya Riddle me that unhappy "fans"

[Jeansus Spears]

I heard glory sold more than anti. But wtf anti went #1 and glory #3 

[AudioBritneyBeats]

Some people are reading into things a little way too seriously and have way too much ignorance regarding this industry, wow.

Not every Madonna album has debuted @ 1. Not Every Michael Jackson Record has debuted @ 1. 
#1 debuts are nice, but they do not make a legend. They do not make longevity. 

This becomes Britney's 10th Top 5 Album. That's a big deal.