About last night...

[Mike.]

8 minutes ago, heather said:

If you're gonna give an example of a "solid performance" as one that have "live" vocals and dancing then YOU said YOU want live vocals, it's easy to come to that conclusion.

 

I don't think it was half assed nor do I think it was 75% walking. That's YOUR opinion, and your NEGATIVE opinion exaggerating what actually happened, which is my ENTIRE point.

 

There were a few negative things, I already said what I thought those where. And there were many more positive things, which again I've already what those were too. Just because you chose ignore the positive parts of the performance to blow up the negative ones doesn't make those positive things less nor does it make the negative ones more. Your opinion is your opinion, no one can make you like the performance but sitting here and bitching about it, nitpicking everything doesn't help the situation anymore than blindly praising it. Which, I have NOT done.

 

No one gives flawless performances, but the difference is other artists have fans that SUPPORT them. They don't nitpick their performances to death looking for those negative things to blow up. They look at the entire performance as a whole. I'm happy to see Britney out there performing and actually enjoying it. https://www.instagram.com/p/BKo7lHngMtu/

 

So many paragraphs and still no answer to my question. 

You're just here claiming that it's MY opinion and stuff,then expain me why does the GP have the same thoughts about Britney's current performances? 

Oh so for you the positive things of the performance was that:

• She looked good.
• She executed 6 out of the 8 choreos well despite them being bad. 

Sis your arguments of a solid performance are a joke.

You're just there talking about how negative I am but at least I actually stated some valid arguments unlike you. 

[heather]

Just now, Mike. said:

 

So many paragraphs and still no answer to my question. 

You're just here claiming that it's MY opinion and stuff,then expain me why do the GP have the same thoughts about Britney's current performances? 

Oh so for you the positive things of the performance was that:

• She looked good.
• She executed 6 out of the 8 choreos well despite them being bad. 

Sis your arguments of a solid performance are a joke.

You're just there talking about how negative I am but at least I actually stated some valid arguments unlike you. 

The GP

 

She looked great.

She was enjoying herself on stage.

She executed ALL of the choreography, it's not her fault that the choreography she's given for stronger/crazy is awful. Or, maybe it is because she hasn't changed it. Either way she still executed it properly.

She proved she doesn't need props to give an entertaining performance.

She is PERFORMING WELL and PROMOTING again.

 

Your "valid arguments" are your negative complaints. The negative things you chose to blow up and then proceed to make the whole performance negative when it wasn't.

 

[MakeMySugarFall]

[Mike.]

Just now, heather said:

The GP

 

She looked great.

She was enjoying herself on stage.

She executed ALL of the choreography, it's not her fault that the choreography she's given for stronger/crazy is awful. Or, maybe it is because she hasn't changed it. Either way she still executed it properly.

She proved she doesn't need props to give an entertaining performance.

She is PERFORMING WELL and PROMOTING again.

 

Your "valid arguments" are your negative complaints. The negative things you chose to blow up and then proceed to make the whole performance negative when it wasn't.

 

Yes,the GENERAL PUBLIC. This kind of promo benefits nothing for Britney. Do you really think that the GP after seeing a pop star lipsyncing and doing some lazy ass choreo they will think like: "Oh i'm gonna buy Britney's new album". NO! The lipsynch is already not accepted nowadays by the GP so her not dancing her ass off like she should doesn't help at all.

 

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She looked great.

She was enjoying herself on stage.

She executed ALL of the choreography, it's not her fault that the choreography she's given for stronger/crazy is awful. Or, maybe it is because she hasn't changed it. Either way she still executed it properly.

She proved she doesn't need props to give an entertaining performance.

She is PERFORMING WELL and PROMOTING again.

 

These arguments LITERALLY don't make any sense. Her looking good and enjoying herself doesn't make the performance good.  

And if you look at her backup dancers,you can clearly tell that she was not executing every choreography well unless you're blind.  

So her promoting again makes the performance good?  

Like i thought,you were bitching about me being negative and yet you don't have any valid argument to back up your claims that the performance was good. 

[heather]

Just now, Mike. said:

Yes,the GENERAL PUBLIC. This kind of promo benefits nothing for Britney. Do you really think that the GP after seeing a pop star lipsyncing and doing some lazy ass choreo they will think like: "Oh i'm gonna buy Britney's new album". NO! The lipsynch is already not accepted nowadays by the GP so her not dancing her ass off like she should doesn't help at all.

 

 

These arguments LITERALLY don't make any sense. Her looking good and enjoying herself doesn't make the performance good.  

And if you look at her backup dancers,you can clearly tell that she was not executing every choreography well unless you're blind.  

So her promoting again makes the performance good?  

Like i thought,you were bitching about me being negative and yet you don't have any valid argument to back up your claims that the performance was good. 

You do realize that the entire GP do not feel the same way as you, right? You do realize that for every negative opinion and article you can find just as many positive ones, right? It all comes down to your perspective and which way you wanna see it.

 

Actually, yes, it does. Compare last nights performance to 2007's VMA performance. There is a VAST difference because Britney looked better physically and was actually enjoying herself like she wanted to be there. Attitude makes all the difference and Britney had that stage presence and confidence again to make a performance enjoyable to watch.

 

And here you go nitpicking to be negative again. Like I've said many times now, if you're going to ignore the positive things then there's really no point to continue this discussion. Continue to be negative and not like the performance, as long as you also let others enjoy it because there are plenty who do.

[Mike.]

6 minutes ago, heather said:

You do realize that the entire GP do not feel the same way as you, right? You do realize that for every negative opinion and article you can find just as many positive ones, right? It all comes down to your perspective and which way you wanna see it.

 

Actually, yes, it does. Compare last nights performance to 2007's VMA performance. There is a VAST difference because Britney looked better physically and was actually enjoying herself like she wanted to be there. Attitude makes all the difference and Britney had that stage presence and confidence again to make a performance enjoyable to watch.

 

And here you go nitpicking to be negative again. Like I've said many times now, if you're going to ignore the positive things then there's really no point to continue this discussion. Continue to be negative and not like the performance, as long as you also let others enjoy it because there are plenty who do.

 

Oh well,since you work by that logic. Just check Glory's sales and tell me how much the GP is loving Britney right now. 

The fact you're comparing 2007's VMAs performance to this one says enough about how desperate you are to make this performance look good. 

But these things you listed have literally nothing to do with the performance being good in terms of entertainment. Like the first argument you listed was that she looked good,like seriously?  

 

[heather]

Just now, Mike. said:

 

Oh well,since you work by that logic. Just check Glory's sales and tell me how much the GP is loving Britney right now. 

The fact you're comparing 2007's VMAs performance to this one says enough about how desperate you are to make this performance look good. 

But these things you listed have literally nothing to do with the performance being good in terms of entertainment. Like the first argument you listed was that she looked good,like seriously?  

 

Bringing sales into this shows are desperate you are to prove the GP doesn't love her so

 

I could also compare this performance to any of her femme fatale promo performances, where again she looked and presented herself better last night than she did then. I could also compare it to early Vegas. The difference between Britney now and Britney in 2007-2013 is extremely different and if you can't see that, I'm sorry for you.

 

I listed many things that made the performance good in my opinion. You can continue to ignore them all you like, it doesn't make them any less valid than your opinion it was bad because she didn't perform more glory songs.

[Mike.]

Just now, heather said:

Bringing sales into this shows are desperate you are to prove the GP doesn't love her so

 

I could also compare this performance to any of her femme fatale promo performances, where again she looked and presented herself better last night than she did then. I could also compare it to early Vegas. The difference between Britney now and Britney in 2007-2013 is extremely different and if you can't see that, I'm sorry for you.

 

I listed many things that made the performance good in my opinion. You can continue to ignore them all you like, it doesn't make them any less valid than your opinion it was bad because she didn't perform more glory songs.

 

Actually no. If even with promo,Glory is not selling that well actually tells a lot about the GP's opinion about Britney now. They're not here for her. Now accept it and move on girl. 

lol,you are reaching so bad it's not even cute anymore.

I've clearly said that if the performance was not good was because the setlist was a mess and that there was way too much walking and not much going on in some parts which is why the performance was boring. 

If my arguments were like yours,it would be something like:

- I didn't like her looks

- The performance was too long

- Glory is a good album (absolutely on topic ofc)

And when did I say that current Britney is not different from Britney in 2007-13? Stop trying to deviate the attention from the main subject,sweetheart. 

[heather]

Just now, Mike. said:

 

Actually no. If even with promo,Glory is not selling that well actually tells a lot about the GP's opinion about Britney now. They're not here for her. Now accept it and move on girl. 

lol,you are reaching so bad it's not even cute anymore.

I've clearly said that if the performance was not good was because the setlist was a mess and that there was way too much walking and not much going on in some parts which is why the performance was boring. 

If my arguments were like yours,it would be something like:

- I didn't like her looks

- The performance was too long

- Glory is a good album (absolutely on topic ofc)

And when did I say that current Britney is not different from Britney in 2007-13? Stop trying to deviate the attention from the main subject,sweetheart. 

But you're the one that brought the GP into this. I couldn't careless whether the GP is here for Britney or not, their opinion doesn't affect mine.

 

Do you understand the difference between opinions and facts? Everything you've stated is your opinion, yet you seem to believe they're facts since they're "valid" while completely ignoring, or belittling mine to boost yourself up. We don't agree, and that's fine. My opinions, however, are not less valid than yours just because you don't agree with me.

 

I'm not deviating from anything, you wanted me to explain why looking better made for a better performance and I did.

[Mike.]

 

[estherilla]

I enjoyed a lot wathching the performance...but I agree with almost every nagging I've red here about her energy on stage, the choreos, the vocals (an lipsinc...of course) and al that.

I think that we simply settle seeing her confident, or even only seeing her promoting Glory whatever... She has been floppy some years, and lost in Las vegas too much time, so we're glad to she her waking up and starting to shine again.

 

I hope she continue in this way, and leave POM in las vegas early, that residence is rusting her 

[BLACKOUTBRlT]

2 hours ago, Mike. said:

 

Proving what exactly? You have no point to prove so yea.

Here's a literal quote:

 

 

We're fucking turning into Exhell. I see at least one to two threads a day putting Britney down. 

 

There's a difference between not liking a performance and talking shit. Some people only put her down 

[Mike.]

18 hours ago, BLACKOUTBRlT said:

Here's a literal quote:

 

 

We're fucking turning into Exhell. I see at least one to two threads a day putting Britney down. 

 

There's a difference between not liking a performance and talking shit. Some people only put her down 

 

Do these threads all come from me tho?  No.

I didn't like  the performance,I talked about it. Now go back to crying about how much Godney is flawless and deserves no negativity.  

[PsychoMonkey]

10 hours ago, josephthemerman said:

@PsychoMonkey where are you now?

 

Been seeing post like this all night, and I've yet to hear from you? Where's that talk? Literally?

 

why the fuck you care where Im at ?!?! You still hurt cus i called you out yesturday?! If you wanna know where im at im on twitter because I barely go on this site anymore since putos like you have destroyed this place. Don't trip over me and what I do. Now go on peaseant, make yourself useful and fetch me a glass of water

 

 

[PsychoMonkey]

@Mike. sis talk to me i think you need a counselor??? Are you okay? is everything okay at home? Are your parents hitting you? Are you dealing with social problems? hows school? Do people bully you  is that why you come on here and just let all this anger out?

 

Ive literally NEVER seen someone SO upset over a Performance... a performance!! Get a fucking grip!!! What are you trynna prove?!? That it was bad?!?!   Like is your mission to get everyone to dislike the performance and agree with you?

 

I agree with you it WAS Piece of Me... but Bruh you have some SERIOUS issues 

[JoshLee]

This thread got messy  

[MakeMySugarFall]

6 minutes ago, JoshLee said:

This thread got messy  

AF and I'm here for it lmao. 

 

(and @heather being a kween don't @ me if you disagree not here for it)

[JoshLee]

Just now, MakeMySugarFall said:

AF and I'm here for it lmao. 

Same. Universe drama is rare, and when it happens it's entertaining and juicy  

[heather]

16 minutes ago, MakeMySugarFall said:

AF and I'm here for it lmao. 

 

(and @heather being a kween don't @ me if you disagree not here for it)

 

15 minutes ago, JoshLee said:

Same. Universe drama is rare, and when it happens it's entertaining and juicy  

I didn't even expect it to go that way, especially with my original comment where I stated the performance had it's flaws but was still overall good that's what happens when people only want to see negativity I guess

[Freakboi]

7 hours ago, heather said:

If you're gonna give an example of a "solid performance" as one that have "live" vocals and dancing then YOU said YOU want live vocals, it's easy to come to that conclusion.

 

I don't think it was half assed nor do I think it was 75% walking. That's YOUR opinion, and your NEGATIVE opinion exaggerating what actually happened, which is my ENTIRE point.

 

There were a few negative things, I already said what I thought those where. And there were many more positive things, which again I've already what those were too. Just because you chose ignore the positive parts of the performance to blow up the negative ones doesn't make those positive things less nor does it make the negative ones more. Your opinion is your opinion, no one can make you like the performance but sitting here and bitching about it, nitpicking everything doesn't help the situation anymore than blindly praising it. Which, I have NOT done.

 

No one gives flawless performances, but the difference is other artists have fans that SUPPORT them. They don't nitpick their performances to death looking for those negative things to blow up. They look at the entire performance as a whole. I'm happy to see Britney out there performing and actually enjoying it. https://www.instagram.com/p/BKo7lHngMtu/

 

Fans don't support her cause there is NO arguments to fight back a hater when they point out the lipsync, that's is also the reason why her new album it's not doing well, people who looked up to her had grown and don't buy a singer that can't sing.

[heather]

37 minutes ago, Freakboi said:

 

Fans don't support her cause there is NO arguments to fight back a hater when they point out the lipsync, that's is also the reason why her new album it's not doing well, people who looked up to her had grown and don't buy a singer that can't sing.

If you're a Britney fan in 2016 and still expecting live singing you either A) Haven't been a fan very long or B) are looking for something to bitch about. I clearly, do not give a single fuck about whether the GP supports Britney or not, because I do and their opinion will never sway mine. I also don't give a single fuck if Britney sings live, lips, prerecords or anything else. That does not make or break a performance for me. I also don't expect everyone to feel the same as I do, I just think bitching and moaning about lip syncing when Britney is this far into her career and has been doing it for this long is pointless and a lose/lose battle.

[josephthemerman]

8 hours ago, PsychoMonkey said:

 

why the fuck you care where Im at ?!?! You still hurt cus i called you out yesturday?! If you wanna know where im at im on twitter because I barely go on this site anymore since putos like you have destroyed this place. Don't trip over me and what I do. Now go on peaseant, make yourself useful and fetch me a glass of water

 

 

Lmao, I could ask you the same ? Why you care what i post? I didn't even know you were a thing till you tagged me girl, and you must be all up in my post's to be thinking I talk out of my ass,

 

You'd be just like me causing drama if i did so? But let's get it straight you dont compare when you don't compete, and you don't belong in either catagory. So relax, you thowin' yourself out the window girl.

 

 

You need some Godney and just gotta be cool, real cool.

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since putos like you have destroyed this place.

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the most basic of them all.

 

Your to much fun!

[tarotx]

It's the fans who are hyper-critical and don't buy. Fans are who really matter when it comes to music success for "older" artist. Fan praise and promote their favs. This fanbase puts Britney down before the GP would even get the chance. Glory didn't sell because Make me wasn't a hit. And there were a few reasons for that.

It didn't get good callback numbers in middle America which left the big cities carrying the song. And that meant sells and streaming were affected which meant the big stations slowly stopped supporting the song. But really the fans were unhappy about the wait for the video and then the released video and stopped requesting. A fan push on the middle America stations would have had a big impact. Instead, we just bitched. 

 

As for the iheart performance this thread is about? I personally thought Britney was cute as can be and I loved every minute of her performance. Britney showing radio that she is strong and confident was one of the best things she can do for her future success. Britney had fun and show cased songs from each album except for my two favs But you don't see me going all meltdowny.  

 

Sure I can nit pick the setlist. if I put this performance together I would have taken either stronger/Crazy out and the Missy dance break as well. I would have had her do all of Work Bitch and Gimme More and ended with TTWEs. Or maybe even taken out both stronger/Crazy and had her perform a 3rd Glory song. But I love the songs performed and I loved seeing Britney smile doing the Missy breakdown and the dancers show off. Britney keeping herself in Vegas limited her dancers chance to perform out of it since they didn't have a lot of free time during the big events since Britney often made sure she was doing a POM date around them. Britney has really highlighted her dancers this year. And I don't see that as a bad thing. She cares about and respects them. 

 

And the lip sync is always going to be criticized but it's something the fans should just ignore within the GP discussions. And within fan discussions it should be more a encouraging her to sing live or at least asking the question of why she doesn't sing live. There really is no reason to be hyper negative about it since that isn't going to help. And imo lip syincing and prerecorded vocals are the samething. Yes, I know the value of making a performance feel live but I don't get the fans having meltdowns about it. Lip syncing is lip syncing. 

 

Any why I don't know why these threads aren't merged into a more centralized iheart thread. One person's opinion shouldn't be given extra weight of their own thread. 

 

[Mike.]

15 hours ago, PsychoMonkey said:

@Mike. sis talk to me i think you need a counselor??? Are you okay? is everything okay at home? Are your parents hitting you? Are you dealing with social problems? hows school? Do people bully you  is that why you come on here and just let all this anger out?

 

Ive literally NEVER seen someone SO upset over a Performance... a performance!! Get a fucking grip!!! What are you trynna prove?!? That it was bad?!?!   Like is your mission to get everyone to dislike the performance and agree with you?

 

I agree with you it WAS Piece of Me... but Bruh you have some SERIOUS issues 

What the actual fuck?

No i don't suffer from any of these things you mentioned however trying to use serious issues like that to make a joke is disgusting. 

[Mike.]

People on this site are so fucking hypocrite and disgusting.

No wonder why the forum is not growing.