I am sorry but I just kind of do not see the 'evidence'

[M.E.]

I don't believe she had anything done until recently. She most definitely had the tip of her nose pinched around the time of the Shape shoot, that's when I first noticed it looking really pointy (you can see it in the candids from today even without the make up contouring it). She probably an eye lift, too.

 

There's nothing wrong with plastic surgery in general, but when someone as naturally perfect as Britney goes and changes her face (and not for the better) after all these years, then that's an issue tbh. She's obviously feeling pressure as she gets "old" to stay looking in her 20s, which isn't right... and a lot of the fans are sadly the ones who were pushing for her to get something done.

 

The only thing I would have ever suggested her doing was getting some good skin care, not surgery or botox.

[Lobo212]

What kind of mess

The pictures aren't even in chronological order

Just because she's making different facial expressions doesn't mean she had plastic surgery

MTE

[Nelli Gaidai]

I don't believe she had anything done until recently. She most definitely had the tip of her nose pinched around the time of the Shape shoot, that's when I first noticed it looking really pointy (you can see it in the candids from today even without the make up contouring it). She probably an eye lift, too.

 

There's nothing wrong with plastic surgery in general, but when someone as naturally perfect as Britney goes and changes her face (and not for the better) after all these years, then that's an issue tbh. She's obviously feeling pressure as she gets "old" to stay looking in her 20s, which isn't right... and a lot of the fans are sadly the ones who were pushing for her to get something done.

 

The only thing I would have ever suggested her doing was getting some good skin care, not surgery or botox.

THIS. i totally agree 

[Nelli Gaidai]

mess

 

The real truth is that no one here knows. All pictures are is circumstantial evidence...evidence, not proof and dismissable evidence if this were somehow brought to trial.

 

You can say just look w your eyes a million times, but we all know she is a chameleon. Her looks change drastically within the same month. And pictures never tell the truth...lighting, film, makeup, angle, facial expressions not ever gonna be exactly the same, puberty, photos can be & are known to be photoshopped, we have never seen her nose bandaged after the alleged surgery nor have we seen her going in to known plastic surgeons, fans speculate and do not agree on the yr in which it was allegedly done, and no one actually knows or is using anything more than speculation and picture comparisons.

 

Plus she admits to lip injections but does not admit to a nosejob...she refers to them as fun stuff, so it seems like she is open enough about cosmetic surgery.

 

This kinda speculation is annoying because no one actually knows the god-given truth, and in civilized societies we dont conduct witch hunts and make accusations. The most that can be said is maybe, and until incontrovertible evidence is discovered from a credible source, it is not a fact.

 

Not that it even matters. But dont spread rumors as fact, it is a dangerous and immoral practice

yea but thats because everything is kept under wraps. it is obvious she had surgery done. especially this last year. that was insance difference in her face. ive never said this before because i hated these kind of rumors that she's gotten work done but this year it was too obvious. i was shocked. 

 

i mean look at these pictures. how can u see the changes. look at her changed lips. she cant smile the way she used to.

 

 

[Guest blehh]

She didn't have a nose job, she had 100000000 of make up artists working on her in every era, they all did a different job, as for lip injections I am sure she's done them, the only reason I dislike stronger mv is because of he HUGE lips in it, they don't fit her one bit. I doubt she had any major plastic tho, maybe a facelift after the FFT era when she looked like she was fucking 50 or something. Other than that, her beauty remains really  

[M.E.]

She didn't have a nose job, she had 100000000 of make up artists working on her in every era, they all did a different job, as for lip injections I am sure she's done them, the only reason I dislike stronger mv is because of he HUGE lips in it, they don't fit her one bit. I doubt she had any major plastic tho, maybe a facelift after the FFT era when she looked like she was fucking 50 or something. Other than that, her beauty remains really

 

You can't keep using make-up as an excuse when the tip of her nose looks different even in candids.

[Guest blehh]

You can't keep using make-up as an excuse when the tip of her nose looks different even in candids.

Call me a britard but I really and honestly don't see it as hard as i try 

[Goten21]

i don't believe she's ever had any major plastic surgery.

[Far Beyond]

yea but thats because everything is kept under wraps. it is obvious she had surgery done. especially this last year. that was insance difference in her face. ive never said this before because i hated these kind of rumors that she's gotten work done but this year it was too obvious. i was shocked. 

 

i mean look at these pictures. how can u see the changes. look at her changed lips. she cant smile the way she used to.

 

obviously I see your point, she looks different...but I can also find pix before the alleged "surgery" where she looks way different. Also, saying everything is kept under wraps is not a sufficient argument o prove that she is "hiding" this, especially since we cannot prove that anyone is purposely hiding it. I mean what is the motive for hiding it anyways when she readily admits to lip injections?

 

You didnt read my summary closely, because you are using pictures as "proof"...when all it is is circumstantial evidence at best. Did you personally take those pix? Do ya know what film was used? Can you see multiple angles? Multiple different facial expressions? Different makeup? Could her skin be swollen underneath the makeup?Could the lighting play a role? The answer is basically the same to all of these questions. 

 

Other possibilities can explain the pix, like alternative procedures, skin treatments, photoshop, medical issues, her unique biology, the ability for a camera to take weird pix, etc etc. 

 

I have no interest in proving she didn't have a procedure, cuz it is entirely possible...but when people claim it like its truth, I find several huge flaws in that thinking: first, she is being accused of something but isn't being defended on these accusations so it is a one-sided argument. Second, not a single online fan knows for sure.

 

To me truth is more important, and I cannot claim to know the truth....I also find it suspicious how fans claim that she got surgery in different eras and within any thread like this there is NO consensus agreed upon by all the accusors as to when she did exactly....basically that side of the argument is fragmented and no single argument is actually made since dates are disputed (in this thread I know someone claims after OIDIA and you claim 2013)

 

"Innocent until proven guilty" is more valuable to me than speculation, and I leave it at that until it comes to my attention that there is incontrovertible proof (not evidence). 

[IfYouCantTakeItThenGetBack]

u dont see it?? the dramatic difference in her face? i posted two pix one from a professional photoshoot and one in real life where she is smiling. she looks like a totally different person compared to pca

I'm not denying that she had surgery, I'm just saying that they used shitty evidence.

The only time she has ever done anything to her face was late 2013. Her nose does seem more pinched now but I think it's because of the fillers/botox and contouring. When she gets botox or whatever, her whole face changes - her eyes deem more alive, her nose seems to be pulled,her lips look bigger, and her cheeks look different. I doubt she heard any major plastic surgery.

[Nelli_Spears]

,she did it again but IDC ....

[Nelli Gaidai]

obviously I see your point, she looks different...but I can also find pix before the alleged "surgery" where she looks way different. Also, saying everything is kept under wraps is not a sufficient argument o prove that she is "hiding" this, especially since we cannot prove that anyone is purposely hiding it. I mean what is the motive for hiding it anyways when she readily admits to lip injections?

 

You didnt read my summary closely, because you are using pictures as "proof"...when all it is is circumstantial evidence at best. Did you personally take those pix? Do ya know what film was used? Can you see multiple angles? Multiple different facial expressions? Different makeup? Could her skin be swollen underneath the makeup?Could the lighting play a role? The answer is basically the same to all of these questions. 

 

Other possibilities can explain the pix, like alternative procedures, skin treatments, photoshop, medical issues, her unique biology, the ability for a camera to take weird pix, etc etc. 

 

I have no interest in proving she didn't have a procedure, cuz it is entirely possible...but when people claim it like its truth, I find several huge flaws in that thinking: first, she is being accused of something but isn't being defended on these accusations so it is a one-sided argument. Second, not a single online fan knows for sure.

 

To me truth is more important, and I cannot claim to know the truth....I also find it suspicious how fans claim that she got surgery in different eras and within any thread like this there is NO consensus agreed upon by all the accusors as to when she did exactly....basically that side of the argument is fragmented and no single argument is actually made since dates are disputed (in this thread I know someone claims after OIDIA and you claim 2013)

 

"Innocent until proven guilty" is more valuable to me than speculation, and I leave it at that until it comes to my attention that there is incontrovertible proof (not evidence). 

well i didnt ask u what u thought of it. u might of just kept all this to urself. 

 

and just because i cannot give a 100% proof of her having plastic surgery done, u also cannot give me 100% proof that she has never gotten it done. u must not b familiar with plastic surgery. it is always slightly different. i mean of course u might not notice it but when u already seen it done before on many people, u can trace their steps. 

 

also, the reason why she'd hide it? SIMPLE. cuz all of her fans would flip shit!!! and have u ever heard a star come out and say 'i just got plastic surgery done' other than those girls that actually WANT the attention but all of the other females would NEVER admit to it. she actually mentioned injections because now she's gone too far, her face looking totally different so she came out and said it acting all innocent about it just in case someone brought up her new face.

 

i mean have u seen courtney cox? the same thing with her. it is always clear when a celebrity has had surgery done. are u gona tell me she hasn't gotten it done either? cuz that is pathetic. 

[Nelli Gaidai]

I'm not denying that she had surgery, I'm just saying that they used shitty evidence.

The only time she has ever done anything to her face was late 2013. Her nose does seem more pinched now but I think it's because of the fillers/botox and contouring. When she gets botox or whatever, her whole face changes - her eyes deem more alive, her nose seems to be pulled,her lips look bigger, and her cheeks look different. I doubt she heard any major plastic surgery.

well she got enough to completely shed her past britney persona and look like a commpletely different person. i dont kno what exactly she did, i already mentioned what i thought she might of done and it might not have been too much but she looks completely different. and i dont think she even likes it. those doctors who get ur plastic surgery done they are such assholes. they feed on those people that lack self esteem. they make them believe they are as ugly as they think they are and they lie to u by telling u u'll look beautiful. u will look perfect. it is all lies. all they want is ur money. i am surprised she would go ahead and do something so permanent like that that she could regret so much later. that is why it is always important to make decisions on a clear head. i guess she had too much pressure to do it tbh. hopefully she'll go back in and try to reverse her plastic surgery procedure to look more like herself again. 

[Far Beyond]

well i didnt ask u what u thought of it. u might of just kept all this to urself. 

 

and just because i cannot give a 100% proof of her having plastic surgery done, u also cannot give me 100% proof that she has never gotten it done. u must not b familiar with plastic surgery. it is always slightly different. i mean of course u might not notice it but when u already seen it done before on many people, u can trace their steps. 

 

also, the reason why she'd hide it? SIMPLE. cuz all of her fans would flip shit!!! and have u ever heard a star come out and say 'i just got plastic surgery done' other than those girls that actually WANT the attention but all of the other females would NEVER admit to it. she actually mentioned injections because now she's gone too far, her face looking totally different so she came out and said it acting all innocent about it just in case someone brought up her new face.

 

i mean have u seen courtney cox? the same thing with her. it is always clear when a celebrity has had surgery done. are u gona tell me she hasn't gotten it done either? cuz that is pathetic. 

I didnt say she 100% didnt have surgery...but to say she definitely had major surgery is more unreasonable than saying "show me the proof". If you make a claim you have to back it up.

 

No one can prove it, and just saying it is obvious is not good enough...especially when it isnt your profession. It would probably be relatively easy to prove if someone had some money and cared enough to investigate.

 

All Im saying is since fans don't know, then they should mind their business.

 

It is just wrong to say something that is ultimately a rumor, and pass it along as fact. Besides...among the people who believe it, there are like 20 different versions of when she had it done and then several more theories as to what exactly she had done...so not even the rumors all line up so how does one even go about judging that when there is not one organized argument. It's a mess argument tbh.

 

For example, People can circulate rumors that she has had an STD if there was any evidence and if enough people run with it and no one can prove it either way...then some say she has an STI, some say no. I would say it is none of our business and since we dont know the issue should be dropped.

 

Whatever rumor it is, the burden of proof is on the accuser to prove it...and if you can't then gather more evidence, or let it go.

 

And I have no idea about Courtney Cox. If I saw a pic it wouldn't be enough. I could be reasonable if I suspect it and ask the right series of questions...starting with "I wonder if she had plastic surgery"? and then the Next question, "how can I prove it...what do I need to do to prove or disprove it?"

 

It's more a matter of respect for people, their right to privacy, truth, and doing what is right. Maybe the story is alot more complex than just "she had major plastic surgery"...and for that reason as well, if you make the accusation it is your duty to make sure the truth is represented fully or else a partial truth may as well be a lie.

 

Let's assume hypothetically that we have 100% proof that she had it done. It would be important to fans to know why she had it, when she had it, and what exactly she had done. Basically the actual facts would tell more of a story and give insight into her as a person. What if she got injured and needed surgery? What if it was just botox? What if a doctor fuct something up? What if she has weird allergies or medical conditions necessary? What if she was planning to do a sex change operation and then backed out of it? What if she was trying to disguise herself around the time she shaved her head? What if she hates her looks? What if she was drunk and just had it done on a whim? What if it was a bet? What if it some weird conspiracy? etc etc etc. Obviously some of these explanations are not likely, but there could be countless explainations. I mean soooo many facts are missing right now, so to say that she had surgery is essentially meaningless without more information...otherwise we are speculating on why she had it...when she had it...what she had...etc.

 

What's the point? 

[Nelli Gaidai]

I didnt say she 100% didnt have surgery...but to say she definitely had major surgery is more unreasonable than saying "show me the proof". If you make a claim you have to back it up.

 

No one can prove it, and just saying it is obvious is not good enough...especially when it isnt your profession. It would probably be relatively easy to prove if someone had some money and cared enough to investigate.

 

All Im saying is since fans don't know, then they should mind their business.

 

It is just wrong to say something that is ultimately a rumor, and pass it along as fact. Besides...among the people who believe it, there are like 20 different versions of when she had it done and then several more theories as to what exactly she had done...so not even the rumors all line up so how does one even go about judging that when there is not one organized argument. It's a mess argument tbh.

 

For example, People can circulate rumors that she has had an STD if there was any evidence and if enough people run with it and no one can prove it either way...then some say she has an STI, some say no. I would say it is none of our business and since we dont know the issue should be dropped.

 

Whatever rumor it is, the burden of proof is on the accuser to prove it...and if you can't then gather more evidence, or let it go.

 

And I have no idea about Courtney Cox. If I saw a pic it wouldn't be enough. I could be reasonable if I suspect it and ask the right series of questions...starting with "I wonder if she had plastic surgery"? and then the Next question, "how can I prove it...what do I need to do to prove or disprove it?"

 

It's more a matter of respect for people, their right to privacy, truth, and doing what is right. Maybe the story is alot more complex than just "she had major plastic surgery"...and for that reason as well, if you make the accusation it is your duty to make sure the truth is represented fully or else a partial truth may as well be a lie.

 

Let's assume hypothetically that we have 100% proof that she had it done. It would be important to fans to know why she had it, when she had it, and what exactly she had done. Basically the actual facts would tell more of a story and give insight into her as a person. What if she got injured and needed surgery? What if it was just botox? What if a doctor fuct something up? What if she has weird allergies or medical conditions necessary? What if she was planning to do a sex change operation and then backed out of it? What if she was trying to disguise herself around the time she shaved her head? What if she hates her looks? What if she was drunk and just had it done on a whim? What if it was a bet? What if it some weird conspiracy? etc etc etc. Obviously some of these explanations are not likely, but there could be countless explainations. I mean soooo many facts are missing right now, so to say that she had surgery is essentially meaningless without more information...otherwise we are speculating on why she had it...when she had it...what she had...etc.

 

What's the point? 

noone is saying she went and did it. this is all specualtion and all discussion. duhh its it obvious? we dont kno anything but we want to discuss it because it is bothering us. 

 

and by the way, it really sounds like u dont have an opinion about anything. i am just saying that is extremely boring and unhealthy way of living ur life. u dismiss anything that could bring up some kind of emotional reaction in u. does it hurt to talk about these things? u r too perfectionistic in ur beliefs. even the real world doesnt work like that. just sayin. 

 

and if there is no point in discussing this, then what is the point of anything at all then? what is the point of living this life and what is the point of it?? O.o u r a strange, strange person.

 

i kno u r on britney's side and i kno u r doing ur best do defend her especially with staying positive about this whole thing but u might also b trying to stay in denial of her having work done because it would break ur heart to kno u will never see the 'old' britney face ever again but the truth is, things r different now. it is ok to discuss it and i would actually enjoy doing that. u might actually bring up some good points and change my mind about this rumor but we also gota b realistic. 

[Marika]

I believe she did have a nosejob. I had myself a nosejob too 2 years ago, a few people noticed a difference actually. Somedays I have a swelling I don't know why and it looks like my old nose. That's why I believe in some recent pics her nose looks like it used in BOMT. That's my conclusion...

[Nelli Gaidai]

I don't see why getting plastic surgery is such a big deal, there's nothing wrong with it, but why is it trending? do people really have nothing better to do with their lives?    

it's a big deal because it bothers us die-hard fans seeing our girl doing anything different to her face! i   mean how can it not bother YOU? r u not concerned about her looks whatsoever? every fan stanning for their fave would. flop tbh 

[Nelli Gaidai]

Exactly my point.. It is just so silly, that they are finding reasons, but who actually cares.. I just saw a trend on twitter, and when I opened the link I was like.. I do not see what they are talking about?

who cares? those fans that actually truly care for britney the person and her messing up her face thats who. why is everyone so offended by this topic? isnt anyone on here mature enough to discuss it? it's just like any other topic. this is a serious question the public is trying to bring up, b serious about it and discuss it. plastic surgery is real guys and it is in the world u live in. what r u goona b ignorant about it for the rest of ur lives? and not admit it exists? how r u gona b there for a close friend that u love or a family memeber that would want to get plastic surgery done for their own face then? how r u gona react to that situation? sounds like none of u would handle it tbh 

[Far Beyond]

noone is saying she went and did it. this is all specualtion and all discussion. duhh its it obvious? we dont kno anything but we want to discuss it because it is bothering us. 

 

and by the way, it really sounds like u dont have an opinion about anything. i am just saying that is extremely boring and unhealthy way of living ur life. u dismiss anything that could bring up some kind of emotional reaction in u. does it hurt to talk about these things? u r too perfectionistic in ur beliefs. even the real world doesnt work like that. just sayin. 

 

and if there is no point in discussing this, then what is the point of anything at all then? what is the point of living this life and what is the point of it?? O.o u r a strange, strange person.

 

i kno u r on britney's side and i kno u r doing ur best do defend her especially with staying positive about this whole thing but u might also b trying to stay in denial of her having work done because it would break ur heart to kno u will never see the 'old' britney face ever again but the truth is, things r different now. it is ok to discuss it and i would actually enjoy doing that. u might actually bring up some good points and change my mind about this rumor but we also gota b realistic. 

lol

no Britney is a big girl and if she wanted surgery then its her prerogative, I wouldnt think any less of her if that was what she truly wanted. Of course I'd be sad if she got it done outta self esteem or pressure.

 

You miss my point though...I dont think I need to have strong opinions to either side to enjoy life. I see things in the middle often because the people who make the strongest arguments are usually wrong. Life is more complicated than just yes or no questions. 

 

I see no compelling argument to side either way...and because I dont have the right info I just think the right thing to do is forget about it. I see it as a matter of ethics in this discussion, and I couldnt feel right to jump into a deterministic black or white argument when the truth is almost certainly somewhere in the grey. 

 

I am basically debating that the entire approach and framing of this question is viewed the wrong way. I am more interested in what is true than my beliefs here, and I simply dont know the truth so how can I believe in it if Im completely honest 

[sin]

No one could look good with a photo taken from below.

And it makes a big difference to the picture (just try do this at home and you will see).

 

:umk: 

[Brian.TheDog]

never cared if she did or didn't, i prefer for people to not do it unless it's something that needs to be changed by a deformation not insecurities

 

but to each their own, she wouldn't be the first or the last one

[EgyptioneyS]

If you haven't had a blind fold on and have been staining since Britney arrived on the scene with Baby. You would know that, YES, Britney HAS had plastic surgery. Make-up artists can only do so much...between the speculation, photos, VIDEOS...I think you would have to be in great denial to think she has not had plastic surgery.

 

Britney got a nose job and a boob job after the BOMT tour. She blamed it on falling and hurting her knee rehearsing for her music video. The nose job was seen by many plastic surgeons, as one of the best nose jobs done on a celebrity because it did look very natural. However, the breasts enhancement was over the top and she had them taken out later because her natural breasts were still growing and the public backlash was hurtful to her. 

 

Still don't believe me? Youtube "Britney Spears Kids Choice Awards Baby One More Time". Her breasts, seemingly overnight, got HUGE.

 

It would take a real stan to notice the surgeries, the downtime when she had them done in order to put together an accurate timeline for the surgeries, but if you are really curious, this website, while not 100% accurate, it is pretty close:

 

http://education.makemeheal.com/index.php/Spears,_Britney

[EgyptioneyS]

If you haven't had a blind fold on and have been staining since Britney arrived on the scene with Baby. You would know that, YES, Britney HAS had plastic surgery. Make-up artists can only do so much...between the speculation, photos, VIDEOS...I think you would have to be in great denial to think she has not had plastic surgery.

 

Britney got a nose job and a boob job after the BOMT tour. She blamed it on falling and hurting her knee rehearsing for her music video. The nose job was seen by many plastic surgeons, as one of the best nose jobs done on a celebrity because it did look very natural. However, the breasts enhancement was over the top and she had them taken out later because her natural breasts were still growing and the public backlash was hurtful to her. 

 

Still don't believe me? Youtube "Britney Spears Kids Choice Awards Baby One More Time". Her breasts, seemingly overnight, got HUGE.

 

It would take a real stan to notice the surgeries, the downtime when she had them done in order to put together an accurate timeline for the surgeries, but if you are really curious, this website, while not 100% accurate, it is pretty close:

 

http://education.makemeheal.com/index.php/Spears,_Britney

 

Side note: I think that she has stayed away from getting extreme work done to herself. But the recent blepharoplasty eyelid surgery... that was too much IMO. Thats when I started really noticing that she was changing her face too much.

[Nelli Gaidai]

If you haven't had a blind fold on and have been staining since Britney arrived on the scene with Baby. You would know that, YES, Britney HAS had plastic surgery. Make-up artists can only do so much...between the speculation, photos, VIDEOS...I think you would have to be in great denial to think she has not had plastic surgery.

 

Britney got a nose job and a boob job after the BOMT tour. She blamed it on falling and hurting her knee rehearsing for her music video. The nose job was seen by many plastic surgeons, as one of the best nose jobs done on a celebrity because it did look very natural. However, the breasts enhancement was over the top and she had them taken out later because her natural breasts were still growing and the public backlash was hurtful to her. 

 

Still don't believe me? Youtube "Britney Spears Kids Choice Awards Baby One More Time". Her breasts, seemingly overnight, got HUGE.

 

It would take a real stan to notice the surgeries, the downtime when she had them done in order to put together an accurate timeline for the surgeries, but if you are really curious, this website, while not 100% accurate, it is pretty close:

 

http://education.makemeheal.com/index.php/Spears,_Britney

she also said so herself she wouldnt b against plastic surgery and would get work done once she wants to. looks like she did

[Nelli Gaidai]

lol

no Britney is a big girl and if she wanted surgery then its her prerogative, I wouldnt think any less of her if that was what she truly wanted. Of course I'd be sad if she got it done outta self esteem or pressure.

 

You miss my point though...I dont think I need to have strong opinions to either side to enjoy life. I see things in the middle often because the people who make the strongest arguments are usually wrong. Life is more complicated than just yes or no questions. 

 

I see no compelling argument to side either way...and because I dont have the right info I just think the right thing to do is forget about it. I see it as a matter of ethics in this discussion, and I couldnt feel right to jump into a deterministic black or white argument when the truth is almost certainly somewhere in the grey. 

 

I am basically debating that the entire approach and framing of this question is viewed the wrong way. I am more interested in what is true than my beliefs here, and I simply dont know the truth so how can I believe in it if Im completely honest 

omgod i could never live my life without self expression. that is not life at all. ive always had really strong opinons and im not saying i am always right but to have the freedom to express them is EVERYTHING in life. 

 

and u dont find enjoyment in black or white issues in life? wow u really dont have an opinion at all. what kind of life is that without an opinion? thats like whiping away ur entire identity. u in danger gurl tbh u better let ur creative side and ur opinons out once in a while, it'll bite back at u big time. u r lieing to urself