And the "Alien" controversy marches on. US Weekly update

[Corona]

You would think they would let it go.

 

Britney Spears' Music Producer William Orbit Defends Her Amid Auto-Tune Controversy: "Charisma Is Charisma"

Entertainment

Jul. 14, 2014 AT 12:40PM By Allison Takeda

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Britney Spears and William Orbit

Famed music producer William Orbit spoke out again to defend Britney Spears amid her continuing auto-tune controversy, telling critics that software can't manufacture charisma

It's just her against the music. Weeks after an auto-tune-free version of Britney Spears' "Alien" leaked online, the pop superstar is still getting flak for digitally altering her voice on the finished product. Her producer on the song, William Orbit, doesn't get what the big deal is, and has repeatedly defended the singer on his Facebook page.

After first trying to diffuse the controversy by telling critics that the leaked clip was of Spears' warm-up, music industry veteran Orbit -- who has worked with the likes of Madonna and All Saints -- began responding to individual commenters. When the comments grew too numerous to keep up with, he decided instead to write a second post on the subject. "I never thought this debate would be quite so heated," he admitted.

"Autotune has always been a hot-button topic," the British producer wrote. "Not as much as the issue of photoshopping in the fashion press. But more than say, the use of CGI, looping, and stunt doubles in the movies."

In the end, though, digital editing is just a very small part of Spears' big picture, he explained. "Regardless of the fun and games that we have with studio production, the main thing to keep in mind with Ms. Spears is that tens of millions (hundreds of millions?) of people enjoy the music," he continued. "That's pretty much the be-all and end-all of it. And charisma is charisma. No software ever invented can manufacture that."

Of the leaked "Alien" clip from her late-2013 Britney Jean album, he added, "[it's] just a shame that someone put it out there. Like, as if they posted duff takes from a movie. Or scans of scrunched-up sheets from the wastepaper basket under a writer's desk? Or photos of the rind-bits left over from a chef's finest a bolognese."

That said, he's not "angry" about the controversy. "I could never get angry about pop music. Or any music," Orbit wrote. "I could get angry about the growing inequality gap, the SCOTUS interference in women's rights to their own bodies, the fact that some people actually deride science these days, the fact that nurses don't get paid properly, LGBT rights, animal rights. And so on. But music? It's a blessing. You cannot be angry with a blessing."

As for those who say auto-tune is a kind of "con"? That kind of language, in Orbit's opinion, is "completely inappropriate" for the topic at hand. "So many things that we trust are misrepresented to us in order for somebody to gouge a few more pennies. Often with harmful results. But music is a different universe," he noted. "Nobody has ever been harmed by a Britney Spears record, unless a stack of them fell onto a CD factory worker."

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[LiaLovesGodney]

Britney= money and ratings.

[Corona]

Britney= money and ratings.

Isn't that the truth. Britney has always brought in the money. You would not believe the site I found this topic on. It was even on International Business Times.

[Dolce]

I can't believe people care so much about Britney that they're STILL talking about this. Brit's impact  
 

[Dolce]

This comment tho...   

"My guess is she was once a decent singer but ruined her voice with drugs and now has no choice but to use Autotune. I doubt she'd be as successful if she tried to build her career now as opposed to when she was young and cute. That may sound harsh but it's true. Her career is based on her image, not her vocal talent."

do you think it's true? I really want to believe Britney still has a beautiful voice. But I always wondered why she even lipsyncs ballads now   

[Corona]

I can't believe people care so much about Britney that they're STILL talking about this. Brit's impact

I think it is funny they out her down for her singing and everything but not once have I heard that she didn't deserve to be Pop Princess.

[Corona]

This comment tho...   

"My guess is she was once a decent singer but ruined her voice with drugs and now has no choice but to use Autotune. I doubt she'd be as successful if she tried to build her career now as opposed to when she was young and cute. That may sound harsh but it's true. Her career is based on her image, not her vocal talent."[/size]

do you think it's true? I really want to believe Britney still has a beautiful voice. But I always wondered why she even lipsyncs ballads now   

Britney has never had a strong Concert Voice. I think she is singing the Ballads the best she can but her vocal cords may not be able to project in that setting anymore. Britney may only be a Studio Artist now when it comes to her singing.

[kermit]

This comment tho...   

"My guess is she was once a decent singer but ruined her voice with drugs and now has no choice but to use Autotune. I doubt she'd be as successful if she tried to build her career now as opposed to when she was young and cute. That may sound harsh but it's true. Her career is based on her image, not her vocal talent."

do you think it's true? I really want to believe Britney still has a beautiful voice. But I always wondered why she even lipsyncs ballads now   

shes been lip synching ballads for years, she didnt sing them live all the time on onyx nor dwad, and definitely not on circus. we have multiple things that prove she can still sing, like yok on circus and unedited demos and stuff like that from the past few years. plus she was never addicted to drugs imo.

[Dolce]

Britney has never had a strong Concert Voice. I think she is singing the Ballads the best she can but her vocal cords may not be able to project in that setting anymore. Britney may only be a Studio Artist now when it comes to her singing.

Yeah she never had a strong voice like Christina or Whitney but she still sang her ballads well. Why do you think she can't do it anymore?  none of her ballads require her to really belt notes.

[Dolce]

shes been lip synching ballads for years, she didnt sing them live all the time on onyx nor dwad, and definitely not on circus. we have multiple things that prove she can still sing, like yok on circus and unedited demos and stuff like that from the past few years. plus she was never addicted to drugs imo.

True she lipsyncs ballads sometimes but sometimes she'd sing them live. Now she never sings them live. I'm so confused why she does this... I dont think it's drugs either, but I think maybe it's the smoking. Like I remember before Whitney's death her voice was actually getting worse because of Whitney's chain smoking/crack habit. 

[JoshLee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdKrtsrCBI

 

This is fake. 

 

1. 2:50 - 3:00 she sings not alone before she starts. (That's not in the real version and I do't think you can cut that out without cutting the instrumental out a little bit there)

2. 2:14 You can barely hear the glitch (to me it sounds like the glitch isn't even there) 

3. 3:14 Backing vocals

4. Don't know about you, but the chorus doesn't sound like her 

 

This is what I found on my own by analyzing the real and this version side by side (sorry if some are wrong, but I'm pretty sure these are correct)

[Corona]

True she lipsyncs ballads sometimes but sometimes she'd sing them live. Now she never sings them live. I'm so confused why she does this... I dont think it's drugs either, but I think maybe it's the smoking. Like I remember before Whitney's death her voice was actually getting worse because of Whitney's chain smoking/crack habit.

Your right I forgot about Whitney losing her voice. And she had a Great Voice. So if Whitney can lose her voice than people should just get off Britney. Whitney's Voice was unbelievable.

[BrittonJeanSpears]

Britney has never had a strong Concert Voice. I think she is singing the Ballads the best she can but her vocal cords may not be able to project in that setting anymore. Britney may only be a Studio Artist now when it comes to her singing.

 

That's just plain not true. Britney got to be on an off-Broadway play at 8 years old. You don't get that just for being cute or having a nice personality. You get that from your sheer vocal talent. She may not have a strong voice now, but she certainly had it before.

[BrittonJeanSpears]

In the end, though, digital editing is just a very small part of Spears' big picture, he explained. "Regardless of the fun and games that we have with studio production, the main thing to keep in mind with Ms. Spears is that tens of millions (hundreds of millions?) of people enjoy the music," he continued. "That's pretty much the be-all and end-all of it. And charisma is charisma. No software ever invented can manufacture that."

As for those who say auto-tune is a kind of "con"? That kind of language, in Orbit's opinion, is "completely inappropriate" for the topic at hand. "So many things that we trust are misrepresented to us in order for somebody to gouge a few more pennies. Often with harmful results. But music is a different universe," he noted. "Nobody has ever been harmed by a Britney Spears record, unless a stack of them fell onto a CD factory worker."

 

William Orbit spilling the truth tea harder than will.i.flop ever could. You betta stan, bitch!

[Corona]

That's just plain not true. Britney got to be on an off-Broadway play at 8 years old. You don't get that just for being cute or having a nice personality. You get that from your sheer vocal talent. She may not have a strong voice now, but she certainly had it before.

I am sorry when she got older and into Pop. Star Search she could sing loud. In fact here is something for everyone who says she could never sing and is tone deaf.