Imma spill a lil tea for Brit Brit ONLY cuz i genuinely love this woman

[Mr.Photographer]

 

Peep this video from 0:30-0:50 Now we dont really know how these choreographers are teaching her...but i feel like THIS is the attitude (in the best way) she needs to have or some one to give her!...I feel like they show her moves and just let her do them the way she wants which in the end is ok...

 

but givin the amounts of people loosely saying...."she's too stiff, she's not as sharp as 2004ney, she's just going thru the motions rather than letting loose & feeling it out like she used to"etc....it would be in great favor for some more sternness to her. YES she has some GREAAAAAT nights where she is killing it on stage Ive seen video and applauded in my seat, but she has her moments where its also just very bland and basically stumbles or just goes through the motions & i think its cuz they just let her and she just lets herself....

 

Thats my "tea" nothing dramatic or controversial and if you leave a comment talking about Im a hater and all this and that, there was no hate or being negative in my post. I'm probably one of THEE biggest supporters of her professionally from a business standpoint, and personally as a fan

[LiaLovesGodney]

I agree. Dance teachers/choreographers are supposed to push their dancers. Britney needs to be motivated, but she's so sweet and timid they're probably scared to be a little harsh with her. I know I would be

[Mr.Photographer]

I agree. Dance teachers/choreographers are supposed to push their dancers. Britney needs to be motivated, but she's so sweet and timid they're probably scared to be a little harsh with her. I know I would be

EXACTLY what i think!

[LiaLovesGodney]

EXACTLY what i think!

Like in IABJ one of the Squared Division guys was telling Britney "you can get lower here... and lower here" in a nice voice. Britney nodded, but she didn't follow his directions. And I was like Come on, Brit!!

[Mr.Photographer]

Like in IABJ one of the Squared Division guys was telling Britney "you can get lower here... and lower here" in a nice voice. Britney nodded, but she didn't follow his directions. And I was like Come on, Brit!!

YES omggg i just thought of that just now lol...like HELLO!!! you are her boss you are hired to make sure the dances she's doing ARE being executed...I've been dancing for years and till now in my college dance team if we half ass it or just mark it we get pushed even further or yelled at! lol...Britney needs someone who is REALLY going to push her and not be like "aww well its britney its ok" its not ok because shes gonna get the backlash from fans and non fans alike talkin about she lost her dancing abilities

[LiaLovesGodney]

YES omggg i just thought of that just now lol...like HELLO!!! you are her boss you are hired to make sure the dances she's doing ARE being executed...I've been dancing for years and till now in my college dance team if we half ass it or just mark it we get pushed even further or yelled at! lol...Britney needs someone who is REALLY going to push her and not be like "aww well its britney its ok" its not ok because shes gonna get the backlash from fans and non fans alike talkin about she lost her dancing abilities

YAS I danced all throughout my childhood and high school and if we didn't dance full out, my teachers made us wish we had. I expect so much more from Britney, tbh.

[TheSnake]

YES omggg i just thought of that just now lol...like HELLO!!! you are her boss you are hired to make sure the dances she's doing ARE being executed...I've been dancing for years and till now in my college dance team if we half ass it or just mark it we get pushed even further or yelled at! lol...Britney needs someone who is REALLY going to push her and not be like "aww well its britney its ok" its not ok because shes gonna get the backlash from fans and non fans alike talkin about she lost her dancing abilities

You act like it's logical to say if she doesn't we give her shit. It's more logical to think we would support her. Who is anyone to say your a bad dancer when she loves doing it?! I think it's time we just let her be now, especially about the dancing. I think it's been milked for all it's worth. She's dancing the best since 2004. Yes, she has her bad moments where sometimes she just can't be assed seen as she knows every step. Wouldn't you get bored?! I would without a doubt do a few half assed performances of Slave having done it for over 12 years with no changes to the breakdown seen as people probably tell her... 'No, people love the breakdown, it has to stay the same'. However, most of the time we get great dancing. Tbh, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If POm was straight after OHT and ff and circus never happened, most people wouldnt blink an eye. But people have given THEMSELVES low expectations of her dancing and see it that she should be back at her peak. Why? To prove what? She's happy with doing what she wants. You can't tell her to dance, sing, or promote. She's worked her ass off and done it all. And about her personality, I think if an ex mental health patient and a 32 woman started acting like she did at 19-23, I'd be slightly worried tbh and the press would eat it up. I wouldn't be suprised if her team or her thought that even after her comeback, they were still saying she was I'll, so they thought she should time her personality down. I don't know. That's just something I thought.

[LiaLovesGodney]

You act like it's logical to say if she doesn't we give her shit. It's more logical to think we would support her. Who is anyone to say your a bad dancer when she loves doing it?! I think it's time we just let her be now, especially about the dancing. I think it's been milked for all it's worth. She's dancing the best since 2004. Yes, she has her bad moments where sometimes she just can't be assed seen as she knows every step. Wouldn't you get bored?! I would without a doubt do a few half assed performances of Slave having done it for over 12 years with no changes to the breakdown seen as people probably tell her... 'No, people love the breakdown, it has to stay the same'. However, most of the time we get great dancing. Tbh, I've said it before and I'll say

Personally, I don't think the fact that Britney has done certain choreography for 10+ years is an excuse. This is her career, and sometimes it can become a little mundane for anyone in any job, but a performer being paid millions shouldn't half-ass anything, imo. She doesn't have to be perfect, but she shouldn't go through the motions just because she's bored.

[Mr.Photographer]

You act like it's logical to say if she doesn't we give her shit. It's more logical to think we would support her. Who is anyone to say your a bad dancer when she loves doing it?! I think it's time we just let her be now, especially about the dancing. I think it's been milked for all it's worth. She's dancing the best since 2004. Yes, she has her bad moments where sometimes she just can't be assed seen as she knows every step. Wouldn't you get bored?! I would without a doubt do a few half assed performances of Slave having done it for over 12 years with no changes to the breakdown seen as people probably tell her... 'No, people love the breakdown, it has to stay the same'. However, most of the time we get great dancing. Tbh, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If POm was straight after OHT and ff and circus never happened, most people wouldnt blink an eye. But people have given THEMSELVES low expectations of her dancing and see it that she should be back at her peak. Why? To prove what? She's happy with doing what she wants. You can't tell her to dance, sing, or promote. She's worked her ass off and done it all. And about her personality, I think if an ex mental health patient and a 32 woman started acting like she did at 19-23, I'd be slightly worried tbh and the press would eat it up. I wouldn't be suprised if her team or her thought that even after her comeback, they were still saying she was I'll, so they thought she should time her personality down. I don't know. That's just something I thought.

Yes its more logical to think we would support her...BUT is that what most people do?! lets be honest and separate what we WISH for and what ACTUALLY is. No one said she's a bad dancer at all, & the part about slave & dances shes down for 12 years, she says HERSELF she changes dances to keep it fresh for one...and as an ENTERTAINER being BORED is not ANY excuse I DONT CARE who it is it could have been Michael Jackson (god rest his soul) and that wouldn't be an excuse..He himself has gone through own delimmas MUCH MORE physically and MUCH WORSE than Britney has, yet his performance would in no way be hindered! they are 2 diff people but the degree in which u make britney seem incapable cuz she's been through things cant be a reason

 

Her being "bored with her famous choreo so Im just gonna half ass it for the rest of the tour"...THAT my friend isnt logical... Thats not to say that she cant get bored of it yeah im sure she would and that's fine...Saying she's 32 and went through things in her life HOW HOW HOW is that a perfectly good and logical excuse for her NOT executing dances like she did before?! She's well enough to walk, do 3 tours since her breakdown, take care of her kids, drive, etc she SURE ASS HELL is capable of dancing as fiercely as she can if she is pushed. WE ARE WAY PASSED her breakdown! Pretend that didnt even HAPPEN then what do you have to lean on with the argument on letting her perform the way she does and just mark moves despite people criticizing her. 

 

Calling her an "ex mental patient" is not a valuable excuse unless she has stopped being a performer completely because of it.

 

Please dont view this as being mean or angry i promise im not lol

[heather]

If POm was straight after OHT and ff and circus never happened, most people wouldnt blink an eye.

THIS

[JoshLee]

Yes I do agree, but since she's shy I think she's afraid to go full out because people may make fun of her and I think that's why. Or it's possibly because she has so many fans screaming and stuff that she just forgets what she's doing or she thinks she's moving and dancing like crazy, but we see she isn't moving so that's what I think, but all in all I think Britney is an amazing singer and dancer and that's what makes her a great entertainer.

[Mr.Photographer]

THIS

There is a slight difference and i do think if we watch OHT and POM right after we'll see that...But like i said She definitely has her moments where she is killing it...but she has more moments of just going through the movements even in choreo she can kill! Do i think its a step up from FF tour and even some circus performances YES i definitely do....Do i think POM is Britney's all and full potential??! Absolutely not 

[tarotx]

When you push Britney you don't get results, you get a frigid Kitty.  Britney has to be comfortable to relax and go all out. Brian tried to push Britney and she ended you having a panic attack on the HIAM video set The Squared Division has done a good job with Britney this era. I still think a female choreographer could get more out of Britney by inspiring her and making it fun. 

[LiaLovesGodney]

THIS

I probably would notice the difference if POM came right after OHT. Her dancing is good, but it's not the same as before. More than anything, I'd notice the lack of dancing. Brit said she would be dancing a lot in POM, but it's nowhere near as much as she did in OHT, DWAD, OIDIDA, or BOMT tours. Just my opinion

[JhoNey]

I agree with everything in the OP.

 

People act like to "support" her,you have to actually shut your mouth and accept everything! NO!

 

I think POM is a great step further from circus and FF but it still lacks proper dancing...

 

I don't blame only stiffney but also the choreographers who made incredible choreography in some songs and for the rest they did almost nothing.

 

Also,I've noticed how they put Britney as the "center" too much,she should be more present in the choreography,as doing the same as the dancers and not just moving her arms in the direction she wants them to go. Like in toxic.

 

also,what happened to the toxic choreo from IABJ? 

[heather]

There is a slight difference and i do think if we watch OHT and POM right after we'll see that...But like i said She definitely has her moments where she is killing it...but she has more moments of just going through the movements even in choreo she can kill! Do i think its a step up from FF tour and even some circus performances YES i definitely do....Do i think POM is Britney's all and full potential??! Absolutely not 

 

I probably would notice the difference if POM came right after OHT. Her dancing is good, but it's not the same as before. More than anything, I'd notice the lack of dancing. Brit said she would be dancing a lot in POM, but it's nowhere near as much as she did in OHT, DWAD, OIDIDA, or BOMT tours. Just my opinion

of course there's going to be a difference if you watch them back to back, but what i meant by quoting that person was that if circus and femme fatale never happened, and we went straight from onyx to pom no one would be critiquing and criticizing her as badly as they do.

[Matilda]

You act like it's logical to say if she doesn't we give her shit. It's more logical to think we would support her. Who is anyone to say your a bad dancer when she loves doing it?! I think it's time we just let her be now, especially about the dancing. I think it's been milked for all it's worth. She's dancing the best since 2004. Yes, she has her bad moments where sometimes she just can't be assed seen as she knows every step. Wouldn't you get bored?! I would without a doubt do a few half assed performances of Slave having done it for over 12 years with no changes to the breakdown seen as people probably tell her... 'No, people love the breakdown, it has to stay the same'. However, most of the time we get great dancing. Tbh, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If POm was straight after OHT and ff and circus never happened, most people wouldnt blink an eye. But people have given THEMSELVES low expectations of her dancing and see it that she should be back at her peak. Why? To prove what? She's happy with doing what she wants. You can't tell her to dance, sing, or promote. She's worked her ass off and done it all. And about her personality, I think if an ex mental health patient and a 32 woman started acting like she did at 19-23, I'd be slightly worried tbh and the press would eat it up. I wouldn't be suprised if her team or her thought that even after her comeback, they were still saying she was I'll, so they thought she should time her personality down. I don't know. That's just something I thought.

 

I really love this post

 

and i disagree with the OP for the most part

 

 

I think you´re discrediting her a bit too much. She KILLS it more than 90% of the time

 

And you´re giving too much credit to when she was younger, we didnt´t have the amount of videos to compare her energy, and dancing night after night. 

 

We´re obsessive fans, moreso than other fanbases and i think it´s ok to constructively critique Britney (which is what you´re trying to do) but other things should be taken into account

 

I love how she´s dancing - i won´t fault her for having a day off, or for messing up here and there on occasion

 

i do agree that she needs people around her to encourage her but never negatively, or tell her she´s not living up to her potential because that´s stupid

 

she need people that will foster her abilities, and will correct her without demeaning her and don´t mind being repetitive 

[Mr.Photographer]

I really love this post

 

and i disagree with the OP for the most part

 

 

I think you´re discrediting her a bit too much. She KILLS it more than 90% of the time

 

And you´re giving too much credit to when she was younger, we didnt´t have the amount of videos to compare her energy, and dancing night after night. 

 

We´re obsessive fans, moreso than other fanbases and i think it´s ok to constructively critique Britney (which is what you´re trying to do) but other things should be taken into account

 

I love how she´s dancing - i won´t fault her for having a day off, or for messing up here and there on occasion

 

i do agree that she needs people around her to encourage her but never negatively, or tell her she´s not living up to her potential because that´s stupid

 

she need people that will foster her abilities, and will correct her without demeaning her and don´t mind being repetitive 

Im not comparing her present dancing to before and saying Britney has gotten worse..I didnt even mention her dancing diminishing in a bad kind of way...however you read it and received the message is is how youre gonna take it...I was more so originally talking about "HER NEEDING PEOPLE TO PUSH HER TO HER FULL POTENTIAL LIKE SHE ALWAYS HAD BEFORE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF HAVING HER DO THE BARE MINIMUM" Why? Because even tho we say yeah 90% of POM is great its not her full potential point blank period...I have enough respect and care for her as an artist to know she has WAY more in her than she does now rather than saying...oh well its Britney this is fine. Its not a negative thing to see more in a person than they are showing because they have SHOWED they are capable of giving more. I dont think shes doing Bad at all in Vegas I love the show..I just dont think She's pushed.

 

When you push Britney you don't get results, you get a frigid Kitty.  Britney has to be comfortable to relax and go all out. Brian tried to push Britney and she ended you having a panic attack on the HIAM video set The Squared Division has done a good job with Britney this era. I still think a female choreographer could get more out of Britney by inspiring her and making it fun. 

And in a way i kinda believe it because people say she's very timid! ESPECIALLY now more than before it seems...and with HIAM yeah i remember that when Brian was talking about it but that was some VERY challenging moves even the style was so different from what she is probably used to so she may have felt uncomfortable we'll never really know the story behind that

[tarotx]

Im not comparing her present dancing to before and saying Britney has gotten worse..I didnt even mention her dancing diminishing in a bad kind of way...however you read it and received the message is is how youre gonna take it...I was more so originally talking about "HER NEEDING PEOPLE TO PUSH HER TO HER FULL POTENTIAL LIKE SHE ALWAYS HAD BEFORE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF HAVING HER DO THE BARE MINIMUM" Why? Because even tho we say yeah 90% of POM is great its not her full potential point blank period...I have enough respect and care for her as an artist to know she has WAY more in her than she does now rather than saying...oh well its Britney this is fine. Its not a negative thing to see more in a person than they are showing because they have SHOWED they are capable of giving more. I dont think shes doing Bad at all in Vegas I love the show..I just dont think She's pushed.

 

And in a way i kinda believe it because people say she's very timid! ESPECIALLY now more than before it seems...and with HIAM yeah i remember that when Brian was talking about it but that was some VERY challenging moves even the style was so different from what she is probably used to so she may have felt uncomfortable we'll never really know the story behind that

It's not just with her dancing. It's everything. When Britney is comfortable she's natural. In interviews, in rehearsals and even when she filmed X factor. Pushing Britney makes her think instead of doing. Britney is her best when she can just be Britney. If I was in control    I would try and make it fun and natural for her at every stage. I want Britney to be Britney. It's where her charm as always shown. And it's kind of what Orbit said he would like to do for Britney if he could EP album 9.

 

I think that is what they allowed for Circus tour. Then they filled out the tour with things to distract from Britney if need be. They tried to make Britney the focus of attention during FF and it was hard for Britney to relax except when she was having fun. With POM it's something in the middle. 

 

Imo.

[Mr.Photographer]

It's not just with her dancing. It's everything. When Britney is comfortable she's nature. In interviews, in rehearsals and even when she filmed X factor. Pushing Britney makes her think instead of doing. Britney is her best when she can just being Britney. If I was in control ( ) I would try and make it fun and natural for her at every stage. I want Britney to be Britney. It's where her charm as always shown. And it's kind of what Orbit said he would like to do for Britney if he could EP album 9.

 

I think that is what they allowed for Circus tour. Then they filled out the tour with things to distract from Britney if need be. They tried to make Britney the focus of attention during FF and it was hard for Britney to relax except when she was having fun. With POM it's something in the middle. 

 

Imo.

i feel you!...esp about the Circus tour..she was soooo lax and natural !

[Matilda]

Im not comparing her present dancing to before and saying Britney has gotten worse..I didnt even mention her dancing diminishing in a bad kind of way...however you read it and received the message is is how youre gonna take it...I was more so originally talking about "HER NEEDING PEOPLE TO PUSH HER TO HER FULL POTENTIAL LIKE SHE ALWAYS HAD BEFORE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF HAVING HER DO THE BARE MINIMUM" Why? Because even tho we say yeah 90% of POM is great its not her full potential point blank period...I have enough respect and care for her as an artist to know she has WAY more in her than she does now rather than saying...oh well its Britney this is fine. Its not a negative thing to see more in a person than they are showing because they have SHOWED they are capable of giving more. I dont think shes doing Bad at all in Vegas I love the show..I just dont think She's pushed.

 

And in a way i kinda believe it because people say she's very timid! ESPECIALLY now more than before it seems...and with HIAM yeah i remember that when Brian was talking about it but that was some VERY challenging moves even the style was so different from what she is probably used to so she may have felt uncomfortable we'll never really know the story behind that

 

more often than not people act like before her breakdown, she was always on 100% every show which is the part that frustrates me when people make complaints about her dancing today. But you´re right you didn´t say anything about it, it´s just something that´s on the tip of my tongue when i see critiques being made, sorry!

 

but i did say that i agreed with the fact that she needs to be ENCOURAGED, not pushed. And i disagree with you in the sense that i don´t feel telling her, look compared to how you were before you´re not reaching your potential and that sucks for everyone involved

 

 

that´s no way to encourage someone to do better, i feel that just tears them down. And i´m not saying you´re doing that or being purposely hurtful but telling someone their improvements aren´t good enough is really discouraging. You yourself said that POM is miles ahead of Circus and FF , so it´s not like she hasn´t been working on improvement

 

it´s totally ok to wish for more, but the way people DEMAND it sometimes isn´t the best. Especially with someone like Britney, you need very carefully structured criticism so that she flourishes instead of withdrawing because she obviously is a very nervous/anxious person who hates confrontation. 

 

and i do think Vegas has pushed her, it´s a little sad that you don´t think so. Is it up to your demands? Probably not, but after Circus and FF, i see her stepping back into a more dance oriented focus, she´s moving faster and she´s using all of her limbs ffs, she´s using all the dynamics and levels in dance, she´s on the floor, she´s partnered with her dancers, she´s being lifted, she´s being thrown, she´s keeping up with the hard breaks, she´s showcasing her spins and spotting (which she hasn´t for while)

 

ideally would i want to see her dance EVEN MORE? Sure, i love danceney, i became a dancer because of her! But i can also appreciate improvement and good execution, and EFFORT ... 

 

and it´s not a personal attack on you OP

 

like i said i just disagree a bit, and i want to clear that  i don´t think your criticism was mean 

[POMNEY :3]

They're afraid to hurt her. When I was small and i took dance classes I always cried when they gave constructive criticism because i felt offended, so I understand why they won't motivate her.

[Mr.Photographer]

more often than not people act like before her breakdown, she was always on 100% every show which is the part that frustrates me when people make complaints about her dancing today. But you´re right you didn´t say anything about it, it´s just something that´s on the tip of my tongue when i see critiques being made, sorry!

 

but i did say that i agreed with the fact that she needs to be ENCOURAGED, not pushed. And i disagree with you in the sense that i don´t feel telling her, look compared to how you were before you´re not reaching your potential and that sucks for everyone involved

 

 

that´s no way to encourage someone to do better, i feel that just tears them down. And i´m not saying you´re doing that or being purposely hurtful but telling someone their improvements aren´t good enough is really discouraging. You yourself said that POM is miles ahead of Circus and FF , so it´s not like she hasn´t been working on improvement

 

it´s totally ok to wish for more, but the way people DEMAND it sometimes isn´t the best. Especially with someone like Britney, you need very carefully structured criticism so that she flourishes instead of withdrawing because she obviously is a very nervous/anxious person who hates confrontation. 

 

and i do think Vegas has pushed her, it´s a little sad that you don´t think so. Is it up to your demands? Probably not, but after Circus and FF, i see her stepping back into a more dance oriented focus, she´s moving faster and she´s using all of her limbs ffs, she´s using all the dynamics and levels in dance, she´s on the floor, she´s partnered with her dancers, she´s being lifted, she´s being thrown, she´s keeping up with the hard breaks, she´s showcasing her spins and spotting (which she hasn´t for while)

 

ideally would i want to see her dance EVEN MORE? Sure, i love danceney, i became a dancer because of her! But i can also appreciate improvement and good execution, and EFFORT ... 

 

and it´s not a personal attack on you OP

 

like i said i just disagree a bit, and i want to clear that  i don´t think your criticism was mean 

I think that your definition of encouraging runs parallel with my definition of being pushed...When i was younger my mom would tell me to push myself...being that whatever your giving give more because you are more than capable of it. Over all i think we have the same idea you just have a more sensitive view on how it should be approached than I do of it now but in the end its a goal that leads to the right place ...& Yeah Britney is a rare breed from what WE as fans know of her and shes very sensitive...Encouragement is definitely needed, everyone needs that...I just think a little pressure will do her good (coals need a little pressure to become a diamond) and thankfully she HAS been improving greatly since her breakdown performance wise...maybe Im seeking that EXTRA pazaz and may be a lil impatient but she's improves and i believe she will continue to if she is motivated the right way. Like you just said I'd live for her choreographers to motivate her to always give her all when she performs that move you did before, what can you do to give it more spice, bring it to life. etc ya know?

 

...funny thing is we've followed her for years after her break down and i showed my friend who is also a fan but doesnt stalk her like is (LOL) watch a POM video and he was like she looks stiff she doesn't do it like she used to...so its all in the eyes of the beholder i guess.....

 

And no harm at all   i cant persecute you for your POV lol,  people on these forums do that and its like can you be civil and face the fact that there are OTHER ppl with OTHER views besides your own smh 

[Mr.Photographer]

They're afraid to hurt her. When I was small and i took dance classes I always cried when they gave constructive criticism because i felt offended, so I understand why they won't motivate her.

Agreed...In the long run didnt it make you better as a dancer? yes it stung to hear what you were giving could be brought out more but once you put your pride and hurt aside you did things to make it better !

[TheSnake]

of course there's going to be a difference if you watch them back to back, but what i meant by quoting that person was that if circus and femme fatale never happened, and we went straight from onyx to pom no one would be critiquing and criticizing her as badly as they do.

Put perfectly tbh