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I'm not thinkig about her dying so much just her legacy, it doesn't impact properly till after death.

 

Obvs we have Elvis as king of rock n roll, Frank Sinatra as king of swing, Marilyn as troubled blonde bomeshell, but will the Britney flaws go so easily with all of the picturs and videos of 07, the constant lip syncing stuff (which has has becoe the face of) and the Alien demo as 'proof she can't sing'. :britney-arrow:

 

Will she be the cliche Hollywood trouble beatiful woman?

The 'talentless' fake popstar that who crumbled under the pressure?

07ney?

Or the the great Britney Spears who happened to have a breakdown and cameback?

 

I'm genuinely interested in what people have to say, try and be unbiased :mhm:

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Elvis is the king of rock n roll tho.

MJ is the king of pop

I think she'll definately be known as the pop queen who churned out pop perfection

I'd have thought a couple of years ago but Madonna really is dying. She needs to do something prominent. Madonna is far from MJs level. If MJ didn't invent king of pop, there would never be a queen of pop. Madonna just happened to fit in there and it has stuck but it won't last. Her hits were in the 80s. Madonnas just kind of there

Britney will definately overtake her when she does/ when they both die. As in, britney will gain the biggest respect from people much like MJ when he died. People start to love them again and love their music. I can't see that happening with Madonna. Britney will have what MJ had when tons of his hits were in the charts. That will definately not happen to Madonna. I can't see anyone buying her music tbh. Maybe Hung Up.

Again, I'm not a Madonna hater at all! 2 years ago I respected her. But she's just fading away

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Elvis is the king of rock n roll tho.

MJ is the king of pop

I think she'll definately be known as the pop queen who churned out pop perfection

I'd have thought a couple of years ago but Madonna really is dying. She needs to do something prominent. Madonna is far from MJs level. If MJ didn't invent king of pop, there would never be a queen of pop. Madonna just happened to fit in there and it has stuck but it won't last. Her hits were in the 80s. Madonnas just kind of there

Britney will definately overtake her when she does/ when they both die. As in, britney will gain the biggest respect from people much like MJ when he died. People start to love them again and love their music. I can't see that happening with Madonna. Britney will have what MJ had when tons of his hits were in the charts. That will definately not happen to Madonna. I can't see anyone buying her music tbh. Maybe Hung Up.

Again, I'm not a Madonna hater at all! 2 years ago I respected her. But she's just fading away

 

I genuinely meant rock n roll haha, i'm used to just saying king of pop

 

Why do you think Britney will overtake Madonna tho?

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Elvis is the king of rock n roll tho.

MJ is the king of pop

I think she'll definately be known as the pop queen who churned out pop perfection

I'd have thought a couple of years ago but Madonna really is dying. She needs to do something prominent. Madonna is far from MJs level. If MJ didn't invent king of pop, there would never be a queen of pop. Madonna just happened to fit in there and it has stuck but it won't last. Her hits were in the 80s. Madonnas just kind of there

Britney will definately overtake her when she does/ when they both die. As in, britney will gain the biggest respect from people much like MJ when he died. People start to love them again and love their music. I can't see that happening with Madonna. Britney will have what MJ had when tons of his hits were in the charts. That will definately not happen to Madonna. I can't see anyone buying her music tbh. Maybe Hung Up.

Again, I'm not a Madonna hater at all! 2 years ago I respected her. But she's just fading away

IA. Since Confessions on a Dancefloor, Madonna has been basically screwing her legacy over. She's trying to keep up when, at her age and success level, she should be ahead of the game and building her legacy.

Britney will be respected and praised for her contributions to pop and bringing on an era of solo female artists. Her personal issues will be seen as proof of her strength and the cost of fame, like with MJ and Marilyn. People who hate on her now will probably turn around and love her once she passes or just retires permanently.

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IA. Since Confessions on a Dancefloor, Madonna has been basically screwing her legacy over. She's trying to keep up when, at her age and success level, she should be ahead of the game and building her legacy.

Britney will be respected and praised for her contributions to pop and bringing on an era of solo female artists. Her personal issues will be seen as proof of her strength and the cost of fame, like with MJ and Marilyn. People who hate on her now will probably turn around and love her once she passes or just retires permanently.

 

Very intereting point, I never thought about that, another thing that Britney never gets credit for? 

 

 

 

Does anyone think Blackout will get the recognition it deserves?

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Very intereting point, I never thought about that, another thing that Britney never gets credit for?

Does anyone think Blackout will get the recognition it deserves?

One can only hope people will appreciate Blackout for how influential it was/is. It is a great pop album. Flawless production and cohesiveness.

And yeah, in the 90s it was all about the boy and girl groups. Britney was the main girl in pop that made it possible for female solo artists to rise in the early 2000s.

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One can only hope people will appreciate Blackout for how influential it was/is. It is a great pop album. Flawless production and cohesiveness.

And yeah, in the 90s it was all about the boy and girl groups. Britney was the main girl in pop that made it possible for female solo artists to rise in the early 2000s.

 

I know MJ was always a good performer (i love him) but he was gone for a while although clearly influenced by him I think Brit set the standard for big award show performances for female performers, i look at Bey and gag and I see that they try it and I'm like 'they're trying to do what Britney did. Only a new chick can really come and top what Britney did I reckon.

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I genuinely meant rock n roll haha, i'm used to just saying king of pop

Why do you think Britney will overtake Madonna tho?

I started to type rock n roll but I write pop aswell tbh :o

His impact

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I know MJ was always a good performer (i love him) but he was gone for a while although clearly influenced by him I think Brit set the standard for big award show performances for female performers, i look at Bey and gag and I see that they try it and I'm like 'they're trying to do what Britney did. Only a new chick can really come and top what Britney did I reckon.

Yeah. The new chick will have to be an awesome dancer and consistently put out chart-topping hits that are iconic. So nothing like Ariana Grande. :tbh:
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Yeah. The new chick will have to be an awesome dancer and consistently put out chart-topping hits that are iconic. So nothing like Ariana Grande. :tbh:

 

She'll have to be a better dancer than Britney was or at least the same, as long as she references Brit as a huge influence I'll be good, if she shades her then she's just a dumb bitch that won't last :smokeney: 

Ariana Grande is Mariah basically but not as good as she was, i like her though

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People aren't automatically exalted after their deaths!! "Legends" aren't respected in their lives, only after they are missed.

Marilyn Monroe/James dean are noted mostly for being young and beautiful in their deaths. Yes, they were in Classic and recognized films, but they became trademarked icons because of their death.

Elvis was poor when he died. His star power and health dwindled severely. One of the only reasons he is a legend today is due to his massive world wide fan base and the fact that his ex wife trademarked his name and likeness, as well as opening his home to the public, to create an inheritance for lisa marie.

Michael Jackson and Elvis both made it to middle age but not without scandal. They are equally remembered for their talent as they are their flaws.

My hope for britney is that she ages kind of like Liz Taylor or Betty white and becomes treasured and respected during her lifetime, not after.

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Are you serious?  :displeased:

Ofcourse!

 

Ofcourse i hope i'm wrong

but i really believe she's going to be forgotten very fast.

 

You hear stuff about Whitney Houston?

I DON'T

 

I think Britney will have the same

 

People talk about her when she's death but in one or two years you don't hear about it anymore 

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Ofcourse!

 

Ofcourse i hope i'm wrong

but i really believe she's going to be forgotten very fast.

 

You hear stuff about Whitney Houston?

I DON'T

 

I think Britney will have the same

 

People talk about her when she's death but in one or two years you don't hear about it anymore 

And it's all because of Whitney's personal problems with drugs or sth? If so then the world is fucked up. Do you know how many celebrities are active drug users but yet nobody knows it? It's just because she's a black female that it's automatically frowned upon even more than with a white male. SMH

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And it's all because of Whitney's personal problems with drugs or sth? If so then the world is fucked up. Do you know how many celebrities are active drug users but yet nobody knows it? It's just because she's a black female that it's automatically frowned upon even more than with a white male. SMH

No i don't think it has anything to do with drugs or skin color or whatever!

 

Britney isn't as big and famous like she was years ago (atleast not in my country)

After the whole shaving head story she's forgotten in my country.

Radio's don't play her music, they just don't talk about her anymore.

 

When she dies people are going to talk about her again.

But when she's death for a while people move on and forget about her again (atleast in my country)

 

 

In my opinion Britney is a legend and in my mind she will never be forgotten

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No i don't think it has anything to do with drugs or skin color or whatever!

 

Britney isn't as big and famous like she was years ago (atleast not in my country)

After the whole shaving head story she's forgotten in my country.

Radio's don't play her music, they just don't talk about her anymore.

 

When she dies people are going to talk about her again.

But when she's death for a while people move on and forget about her again (atleast in my country)

 

 

In my opinion Britney is a legend and in my mind she will never be forgotten

In the US people can't stop talking about her. Granted, most of the conversations are about lipsyncing in Vegas and the Alien "leak", but she's still a big topic of conversation here. Hell she was even mentioned on CNN, one of the most-viewed news channels in the US

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I can simplify it: She will be remembered as important and influential.

 

Britney was integral in the late 90's and played a pivotal role in the emergence of female solo pop acts. Therefore upon any retrospective of the 90's and 00's...she will at minimum be remembered for that. 

 

Britney played a major, if not defining role in modern tabloid culture. 

 

The fever pitch of her success is unlike anything we have seen since Nirvana. 

 

The answer is absolutely obvious.

 

People who doubt it are just way too concerned w popularity as it stands right now, but that is a short-sighted view that leaves out too many important variables.

 

I read someone comment that they don't hear about Whitney, so she isn't really a legend. Well I don't really hear about MJ, especially since I am more into a variety of music from various time periods. Do you hear about Beethoven or Mozart that often (I do, but I am a musician)?

 

Legacy is not a measurement, it is a qualitative fact not a quantitative one. You cannot simply give points to someones legacy and rank it as a number...when you start throwing around numbers it doesn't do it justice. As an example, Black Sabbath (Ozzy's first band) that was the first heavy metal band have sold less albums than Metallica...but Black Sabbath influenced Metallica, and Metallica influenced bands today...Black Sabbath never had a #1 single in the U.S. but "the Macarena" and "Achey Breaky Heart" made it to #1. Also, a #1 ranking becomes less meaningful if you don't compare it to the setting in which it was released...

 

...and it gets much deeper and complex than this. Any true musicians and music fans out there focus on the music itself more than numbers. And when they speak of impact, they don't discuss it in terms of who slays who...this is just modern stanwar bullshit that mainstream fans get into. 

 

I'm not sure how deep this discussion wants to  get....but as a musician and lover of music itself I see a much more meaningful narrative in the evolution and unfolding of music history, than any chart position or comparison between artists could ever illustrate.

 

Besides to look at music as a competition is looking at music the wrong way...you don't truly appreciate music if you see numbers and treat it like the Olympics...I kinda cringe at the thought of something subjective being treated so objectively

 

end of rant for now...

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I can simplify it: She will be remembered as important and influential.

 

Britney was integral in the late 90's and played a pivotal role in the emergence of female solo pop acts. Therefore upon any retrospective of the 90's and 00's...she will at minimum be remembered for that. 

 

Britney played a major, if not defining role in modern tabloid culture. 

 

The fever pitch of her success is unlike anything we have seen since Nirvana. 

 

The answer is absolutely obvious.

 

People who doubt it are just way too concerned w popularity as it stands right now, but that is a short-sighted view that leaves out too many important variables.

 

I read someone comment that they don't hear about Whitney, so she isn't really a legend. Well I don't really hear about MJ, especially since I am more into a variety of music from various time periods. Do you hear about Beethoven or Mozart that often (I do, but I am a musician)?

 

Legacy is not a measurement, it is a qualitative fact not a quantitative one. You cannot simply give points to someones legacy and rank it as a number...when you start throwing around numbers it doesn't do it justice. As an example, Black Sabbath (Ozzy's first band) that was the first heavy metal band have sold less albums than Metallica...but Black Sabbath influenced Metallica, and Metallica influenced bands today...Black Sabbath never had a #1 single in the U.S. but "the Macarena" and "Achey Breaky Heart" made it to #1. Also, a #1 ranking becomes less meaningful if you don't compare it to the setting in which it was released...

 

...and it gets much deeper and complex than this. Any true musicians and music fans out there focus on the music itself more than numbers. And when they speak of impact, they don't discuss it in terms of who slays who...this is just modern stanwar bullshit that mainstream fans get into. 

 

I'm not sure how deep this discussion wants to  get....but as a musician and lover of music itself I see a much more meaningful narrative in the evolution and unfolding of music history, than any chart position or comparison between artists could ever illustrate.

 

Besides to look at music as a competition is looking at music the wrong way...you don't truly appreciate music if you see numbers and treat it like the Olympics...I kinda cringe at the thought of something subjective being treated so objectively

 

end of rant for now...

 

That was... a great read.

 

And I agree completely. Some people may not realize it but Britney not dominating the charts or whatever list right now does not take away everything she has accomplished and what she meant for showbiz. The trend of teen girl Lolita's? She started it. The craziness of the paparazzi? She played a huge part in that. Not to forget the influence she had on music video's, low cut jeans and stuff like that.

 

Yes, she will be remembered. Just like Whitney Houston is remembered. No, they don't talk about Whitney everyday but you need to put things in the right perspective. First question: from what generation are you? The radio stations my parent listen to play Whitney quite a lot. My mother bought Whitney's LP.

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