She Should Use This Time To Work On Her Voice

[ValetGirls]

There's really no excuse for Alien or Perfume. Both of them are lower register slow tunes that are in Brit's tessitura.

 

Come now, homegurl you betta work, at least a little, when it comes to your voice. We all love it!

[Dragneel]

Why do you all always have to disagree when ultimately you have the same opinion?

1. We all prefer danceney instead of vocalney

2. We all miss vocalney but we want her back ONLY for the ballads

The rest of the opinions are just a minority...

[heather]

@Caroline77 Britney is more than just a singer if we were talking about someone like Adele I would see your point. Britney is more about the big picture and the whole show. Her show as a whole is fantastic - the best she's been in years. Are there things that could be fixed and worked on? Sure. Could have said the same for any of her previous tours. Including the ones that are over hyped. But that doesn't change the fact that piece of me is a great show, Britney is happier and healthier than she's been in years, and ultimately that is the only thing that matters. Not the whiney opinions of over bearing and demanding fans

[Caroline77]

1. Don't doubt my Britney fanship. Check my meet & greet photo. I LOVE her! I've been to every single tour (except M&M) and have been a fan since the beginning. 

 

2. I think it would be GREAT if the general public were impressed by Britney singing live. I'm saying that I don't think that the general public would be impressed if she did sing live. The general public has never cared for her to sing live so why would they care now? TBH they would probably just use examples of her singing live to make fun of her voice like they have done countless times in the past when she has sung live! The only thing the general public cares about is her beauty, how hot her songs are and how she DANCES.

(also contrary to your assertion,  not caring what the general public or the haters think does not make me a bad Britney fan, it makes me a better one! I don't care what the haters think. There have been haters since day one. If Britney can make it through 2007 and comeback to massive success then the least I can do as a fan is ignore the haters and keep staning) 

 

3. I agree it would be nice if she sang the ballads and lip-synched to pre-recorded vocals instead of the album versions. That being said I honestly wouldn't be happy if she was singing live the whole time or even most of the time because it would be mean she wouldn't be slaying us with those dance moves. 

 

4. I hope you're paying attention: 

Her dancing is just getting better and better. She dances harder and way way more in the POM show than she did in the Circus or FF tours. Her dancing with time is improving but if you want her to be dancing like it's 2001 overnight then I'd suggest you re-set your expectations. She may not dance as hard as she used to but she still dances more and better than her peers (GaGa, Beyonce..etc) :pieceofme3:

 

5. I think you have a warped perception of what the general public thinks of the Queen. The world LOVES Britney and is not out to get her anymore than they are any other celeb. It's not 2007 anymore. Her POM show is a huge success. There are talks of extending it. She is loved and idolized enough to launch a lingerie line. She is an adored ICON! 

 

1 - i don't doubt you are a fan since a long time and you love her, i just don't understand fans who are "ok" with the lip syncing and all the shits and dramas she gets for it.

 

2 - I'm not saying everyone will praise her, obviously, but media will obviously talk about it and i highly doubt they will bash her (unless she's singing really bad, that's a risk but what is life without risks?). Then what people think about it, if they want to make fun of her singing, well, i will let them. Not my problem if they are deaf and delusional. Thing is, i would prefer them to criticize Britney singing, because if she sings well or not, some people are just never satisfied anyway, but it's a subject that can be arguable. While them making fun of her lip syncing is actually kinda justified because it IS ridiculous, and we have nothing to defend her for this. AND most important, it would stop all those dramas, with Myah, autotune etc. (and not even talking about GP, but the fanbase itself)

 

3 - I never said i wanted her to sing everything. Obviously she won't sing live on songs like WB, or Blackout segments, i'm not stupid and i don't want her to do it either, she's not a robot she can't dance and sing in the same time.  All i ask tho is pre recorded vocals (especially old songs), live singing on ballads, and maybe, as someone else said the slave segment with a backing track to help her, and also Toxic. But i would be totally satisfied if it's only the ballads.

 

4 - I think you misunderstood, i never said i was expecting 2001ney dancing and i never will because i know it will never happen again, and that's the thing. I know she's not dancing like she used to so she needs to sing live some songs to compensate the "lack" of dancing. And i said she did great improvements, yes she's dancing better than Circus and FF, but it's not enough to allow her to put on a show with 100% lip syincing. She's dancing what ? Like 6-7 songs (armography doesn't count) and it's not even the entire songs, it's just the chorus, and some of them are even medleys. That means what, 15 minutes at the very most, of the entire show that last for 90 minutes (i think it's 90mins?). Yeah it definitely doesn't allow her a 100% lip syncing show. And Beyonce and others might not dancing very well, but they don't lip sync over 15yo vocals.

 

5 - Yes, she is really loved. That's why she's always being insulted for playback, autotune, photoshop etc. And having success have nothing to do with being loved or not. Britney always had success, and always has been criticized for everything.

I like some big radio stations of my country on facebook, and when they post about Britney, if it's about Vegas, all comments except Britney's fans are "no time for someone who can't sing" , if it's about her lingerie line or how great her body is, comments are "she needs to stop using photoshop". So, yeahh .. 

[britneystanstan]

No offense or Shade meant britneystanstan! I'm VERY Sorry if it came off that way or if I came on strong. I don't mean to offend anyone.

I just disagree and thought this post and your "FF worst era" posts were very Negative. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

None taken

I'm a Britney fan and I've made tons of positive stuff in the past! I dunno, I just felt like opening the discussion... For me, it's more like I know she has the talent but she's not using it. Like I said, what I'd really love from her is another Godcus Tour with live vocals... because it has the perfect amount of choreo and production for her to sing live. But I can't fully love it because she needlessly lipped everything.

I know as Britney fans we should be used to it, but I still find it wrong that we're used to it. I think a reason we can call the post breakdown era a decline is that she never brought us anything new to replace the dancing it's mostly her trying to be a watered down version of Primeney when I feel that for the longest time she's been due for a change... Better singing could be it

I may also be in the minority but I appreciated her singing voice in the ballads early in her career. It's very unique but it lacked strength so I can see why they focused on the dancing. Now that she doesn't seem as into choreo anymore, it may be a good time to pick up where she "left behind" for years.

I also felt like making hit threads

[britneystanstan]

Well, too bad we aren't in a unicorn and candy world where we can do what we want when we want, to make ourselves happy, but in the real world where we have obligations and have to work especially if we have a job , aka being a singer means you have to sing.

and then people are wondering why some of us are making a "big deal" with the lip syncing issue. It is NOT normal for a fan of a SINGER to compare videos trying to find some live vocals and then say things like "omg she's singing live at 1:16-1:19" . i seriously think we are the only fanbase who has to do this to hear some "live vocals". This is seriously despairing.

I know right ?

Yes, she has a family and she went through hard stuff. But that doesn't make it as an excuse for lip syncing. If you are a singer you need to sing.

She's on stage for 1 month and have a 2-3 months break, i don't think it would kill her to take at least 1 singing lesson per week during her break, and then at least try to sing just 1 song, or at least add some pre recorded vocals to the show.

And yes it makes me feel sad to see how people make fun of her because of this. We know she is talented but we absolutely have no arguments to defend her since it's been a long time we didn't hear her voice live, so it's even more frustrating. Makes me feel bad to see how she's wasting her talent, because she has a beautiful voice.

Mfte

I do think it's a valid reason that she's been through so much though. I love her and I went through 2007 with her and I was just hoping she's stay alive with a happy family. And she has that now.

But if I were to be honest, I also want more. I dunno, I feel like she's lost her passion for dancing a while back, which is fine because id get sick of it too after so many years. But maybe, she can get back into singing... and singing well.

[bar]

Are you TROLLING?!??? 

 

Any REAL Britney Fan could care less about "singing live"! Britney has hardly ever sung live her whole career. WE DON'T CARE!

 

REAL Britney fans love DANCENEY above all else. :dealwitit:

You're complaining about her lipsynching like it's 2000 or something!??!! 

If you want no lipsynching and amazing vocals go listen to Adele or Mariah or something.. ain't nobody got time for that! We have GODNEY worshiping to do! 

 

Get over it and Get a new complaint! #OLD NEWS 

that's not true tho. i've been a diehard stan for the past 16 years and i'll continue to stan but i do care about her vocals because that's one of the things i love the most about her

 

i just usually don't feel the need to say this because, as you say, it's been a million lipsynching years. 

[Babydoll]

Postbreakdownney would've been easier to accept for most fans even if the dancing lessened if she sang live more and sounded good.

If she really wants to dance less now/do less choreo, id really like if she went back to improving her voice and singing live.

For example, Godcus Tour was a perfect tour and the lack of dancing didn't bother me. It was the lip syncing the entire show without dancing that really bothered me

 

She should at least pre record vocals for BOMT/OIDIA, Lucky, Everytime + she HAS TO sing Perfume & Alien live. I can't belive that this show is 100% lip synced

This

We all know she could do better , she just needs a little bit of extra effort and she will be slaying the entire world tbh

[britneystanstan]

that's not true tho. i've been a diehard stan for the past 16 years and i'll continue to stan but i do care about her vocals because that's one of the things i love the most about her

 

i just usually don't feel the need to say this because, as you say, it's been a million lipsynching years. 

 

This is true though, I think it doesn't matter to the GP, but I see a lot of fans wanting to hear her voice. The ballads on BOMT have a special place in my heart

 

But I guess with me, I also want her to sound GOOD when she sings live. Not here for her singing like Katy Perry and the world wishing she was lipping again

[gimmework]

And yet, you're here?

OMG #TRUTH 

[gimmework]

None taken

I'm a Britney fan and I've made tons of positive stuff in the past! I dunno, I just felt like opening the discussion... For me, it's more like I know she has the talent but she's not using it. Like I said, what I'd really love from her is another Godcus Tour with live vocals... because it has the perfect amount of choreo and production for her to sing live. But I can't fully love it because she needlessly lipped everything.

I know as Britney fans we should be used to it, but I still find it wrong that we're used to it. I think a reason we can call the post breakdown era a decline is that she never brought us anything new to replace the dancing it's mostly her trying to be a watered down version of Primeney when I feel that for the longest time she's been due for a change... Better singing could be it

I may also be in the minority but I appreciated her singing voice in the ballads early in her career. It's very unique but it lacked strength so I can see why they focused on the dancing. Now that she doesn't seem as into choreo anymore, it may be a good time to pick up where she "left behind" for years.

I also felt like making hit threads

 

" I also felt like making hit threads  :yaknow:"  

 

   Love it! 

Well Done!  

[britneystanstan]

" I also felt like making hit threads  :yaknow:"  

 

   Love it! 

Well Done!  

 

And even then, it's barely working There are so many users online, where are they

[gimmework]

Why do you all always have to disagree when ultimately you have the same opinion?

1. We all prefer danceney instead of vocalney

2. We all miss vocalney but we want her back ONLY for the ballads

The rest of the opinions are just a minority...

This! 

[gimmework]

1 - i don't doubt you are a fan since a long time and you love her, i just don't understand fans who are "ok" with the lip syncing and all the shits and dramas she gets for it.

 

2 - I'm not saying everyone will praise her, obviously, but media will obviously talk about it and i highly doubt they will bash her (unless she's singing really bad, that's a risk but what is life without risks?). Then what people think about it, if they want to make fun of her singing, well, i will let them. Not my problem if they are deaf and delusional. Thing is, i would prefer them to criticize Britney singing, because if she sings well or not, some people are just never satisfied anyway, but it's a subject that can be arguable. While them making fun of her lip syncing is actually kinda justified because it IS ridiculous, and we have nothing to defend her for this. AND most important, it would stop all those dramas, with Myah, autotune etc. (and not even talking about GP, but the fanbase itself)

 

3 - I never said i wanted her to sing everything. Obviously she won't sing live on songs like WB, or Blackout segments, i'm not stupid and i don't want her to do it either, she's not a robot she can't dance and sing in the same time.  All i ask tho is pre recorded vocals (especially old songs), live singing on ballads, and maybe, as someone else said the slave segment with a backing track to help her, and also Toxic. But i would be totally satisfied if it's only the ballads.

 

4 - I think you misunderstood, i never said i was expecting 2001ney dancing and i never will because i know it will never happen again, and that's the thing. I know she's not dancing like she used to so she needs to sing live some songs to compensate the "lack" of dancing. And i said she did great improvements, yes she's dancing better than Circus and FF, but it's not enough to allow her to put on a show with 100% lip syincing. She's dancing what ? Like 6-7 songs (armography doesn't count) and it's not even the entire songs, it's just the chorus, and some of them are even medleys. That means what, 15 minutes at the very most, of the entire show that last for 90 minutes (i think it's 90mins?). Yeah it definitely doesn't allow her a 100% lip syncing show. And Beyonce and others might not dancing very well, but they don't lip sync over 15yo vocals.

 

5 - Yes, she is really loved. That's why she's always being insulted for playback, autotune, photoshop etc. And having success have nothing to do with being loved or not. Britney always had success, and always has been criticized for everything.

I like some big radio stations of my country on facebook, and when they post about Britney, if it's about Vegas, all comments except Britney's fans are "no time for someone who can't sing" , if it's about her lingerie line or how great her body is, comments are "she needs to stop using photoshop". So, yeahh .. 

 

1 - Maybe it's just in the USA, idk.. but no one here has every really cared about Britney lip-syncing. It's well known that she does it and has even poked fun at it on SNL. USA loves a lip-syncing Britney and has embraced her anyway. So maybe outside of the USA people care more. I don't think of Britney as a vocalist, singer or artist. She's an entertainer. And the BEST in my opinion. 

 

2 - The Myah dramas etc.. really these are not things the general public even know or care about. They are BArmy fan site dramas.

 

3 - 

4- There is way way way more than 15mins of dancing in the POM show. She dances in almost every number. I believe that she is dancing in POM way to hard to sing live to anything except ballads. You can debate percentages all you want, and she may not be dancing as hard as she used to but the point is that she is dancing more and better than she has since Onyx. PROGRESS is the whole point. TBH I wish Brit fans would appreciate the progress she's making instead of always expecting MORE, MORE, MORE or saying that it's not good enough. 

 

5 - Again this is all BArmy fansite message board complaints. Almost all musicians use auto tune and Britney has her whole career. People didn't just start being upset and complaining about it now. No one cares but message board complainers. Same goes for the photo shop.. everyone is photoshoped. No one complains about Britney being photoshopped anymore than they do other celebs unless of course you're only checking of Britney message boards. 

[Betty Draper]

Even if she sang live, people will still say she's lip-syncing. Some of her fans still think she lipped YOK. Smh

[paula24bs]

I agree about the pre recorded back tracks but progress is progress! She may not dance as hard in POM as she did in Onyx but she does dance way way more and harder in POM than she did in Circus or FF tours and that shouldn't be ignored. She's getting better with time. POM is the most dancing she's done since Onyx and that excites me! Gives me hope that it will just keep getting better.  :bigsmile: 

 

(ps. They had us learn the slave choreo when I was in high school for a musical audition and it is NOT easy. I couldn't sing and do it correctly so I would not expect Britney to) 

agree with everything you said...I learn all of her choreographies, I learned all of the vegas ones, I have them on my youtube channel, and I know some are not easy, and slave it's NOT easy!! but the version that she does in vegas it's possible to sing with a back track, she's in the chair a lot and does a lot of hand moves...the only hard choreo is the final break and she doesn't need to sing there...so it should be possible...but yeah her dancing it's the best after the breakdown

[paula24bs]

And yet, you're here?

I didn't said that I don't like her current work, I just said that she doesn't give us that anymore, any fan will agree with me...I didn't said that she's bad...she just isn't as good in dancing as she was...everyone can see that...i'm not bringing her down

[Caroline77]

1 - Maybe it's just in the USA, idk.. but no one here has every really cared about Britney lip-syncing. It's well known that she does it and has even poked fun at it on SNL. USA loves a lip-syncing Britney and has embraced her anyway. So maybe outside of the USA people care more. I don't think of Britney as a vocalist, singer or artist. She's an entertainer. And the BEST in my opinion. 

 

2 - The Myah dramas etc.. really these are not things the general public even know or care about. They are BArmy fan site dramas.

 

3 - 

4- There is way way way more than 15mins of dancing in the POM show. She dances in almost every number. I believe that she is dancing in POM way to hard to sing live to anything except ballads. You can debate percentages all you want, and she may not be dancing as hard as she used to but the point is that she is dancing more and better than she has since Onyx. PROGRESS is the whole point. TBH I wish Brit fans would appreciate the progress she's making instead of always expecting MORE, MORE, MORE or saying that it's not good enough. 

 

5 - Again this is all BArmy fansite message board complaints. Almost all musicians use auto tune and Britney has her whole career. People didn't just start being upset and complaining about it now. No one cares but message board complainers. Same goes for the photo shop.. everyone is photoshoped. No one complains about Britney being photoshopped anymore than they do other celebs unless of course you're only checking of Britney message boards. 

 

1 - I don't know maybe. I live in France so...

 

2 - That's why i said i wasn't talking about the GP but the fanbase.

 

3 -

 

4 - i don't consider armography as dancing, so if you count womanizer, 3, bomt, boys, freakshow, do something, i wanna go, toxic, crazy, ttwe as dancing , well, good for you. But anybody could do what she does on these performances, and even would be able to sing at the same time, or at least with a backing track for some. Plus there is Perfume , Everytime and Lucky as ballads. That's already more than half of the show. She really dance on WB, MATM, GM, BTI , Stronger. Then on POM it's just 15seconds of dancing, same for Slave, and Oops. (I think i did all the songs, sorry if i forgot some) So , again, she can't lip syncing everything. Yes there is a lot of progress, but just because there is a progress it doesnt mean the lip syncing is justified.

And i actually appreciate her work and her efforts, and it's really better than FF (i even prefer POM over OHT so yeah..) i already said many times she did really great improvements and i'm really proud, however i'm not blinded or delusional so no, i won't say she's dancing on almost every songs because it is not true, i also won't say it requires a lot of effort to walk and move your arms at the point you can't sing because you seem to act like she's doing a marathon on stage or something, so yes she should sing live some songs.

 

5 - i'm not talking about autotune here, but lip syncing, and let's be honest, Britney is the only one that lip syncs an entire show, worse, over her 15 yo vocals. So, i will even say it myself, it's shameful. Look at J-lo, she's dancing more than Britney with more energy, also passion, and she still sings live and/or have pre recorded vocals, and she's more than 10yo older. Britney has really no excuses for lipsyncing her ballads. Yes Britney is the only one that gets shit for this, because she's the only one to do it.

And anyway my point was, if she was so loved as you said, she wouldn't get all these critics. That's it.

[gimmework]

agree with everything you said...I learn all of her choreographies, I learned all of the vegas ones, I have them on my youtube channel, and I know some are not easy, and slave it's NOT easy!! but the version that she does in vegas it's possible to sing with a back track, she's in the chair a lot and does a lot of hand moves...the only hard choreo is the final break and she doesn't need to sing there...so it should be possible...but yeah her dancing it's the best after the breakdown

Good point! She could sing during the sitting down parts of Slave. I guess I just have never expected her to sing live because she rarely does so it's not really something I would get that excited for.. but I would love it if there was a cover or something exciting on the next tour. I know she can't for POM because it's a Hits show, but on the next tour a cover would be great. She took Burning Up out of the set list before the FF tour show that I went to so that was sad 

[Let Go]

Whatever , with good voice or not her team will turn off her mic on every fucking show   

Face it!

[gimmework]

1 - I don't know maybe. I live in France so...

 

2 - That's why i said i wasn't talking about the GP but the fanbase.

 

3 -

 

4 - i don't consider armography as dancing, so if you count womanizer, 3, bomt, boys, freakshow, do something, i wanna go, toxic, crazy, ttwe as dancing , well, good for you. But anybody could do what she does on these performances, and even would be able to sing at the same time, or at least with a backing track for some. Plus there is Perfume , Everytime and Lucky as ballads. That's already more than half of the show. She really dance on WB, MATM, GM, BTI , Stronger. Then on POM it's just 15seconds of dancing, same for Slave, and Oops. (I think i did all the songs, sorry if i forgot some) So , again, she can't lip syncing everything. Yes there is a lot of progress, but just because there is a progress it doesnt mean the lip syncing is justified.

And i actually appreciate her work and her efforts, and it's really better than FF (i even prefer POM over OHT so yeah..) i already said many times she did really great improvements and i'm really proud, however i'm not blinded or delusional so no, i won't say she's dancing on almost every songs because it is not true, i also won't say it requires a lot of effort to walk and move your arms at the point you can't sing because you seem to act like she's doing a marathon on stage or something, so yes she should sing live some songs.

 

5 - i'm not talking about autotune here, but lip syncing, and let's be honest, Britney is the only one that lip syncs an entire show, worse, over her 15 yo vocals. So, i will even say it myself, it's shameful. Look at J-lo, she's dancing more than Britney with more energy, also passion, and she still sings live and/or have pre recorded vocals, and she's more than 10yo older. Britney has really no excuses for lipsyncing her ballads. Yes Britney is the only one that gets shit for this, because she's the only one to do it.

And anyway my point was, if she was so loved as you said, she wouldn't get all these critics. That's it.

 

 

1- OMG I'm going to Paris for the first time next month! So excited! I'm gonna party in France 

2 - Sorry I thought you said the Media. The media here doesn't really bash her. Especially for lip syncing. I mean not since the early 2000's anyway.  I mean the media did in 2007 obviously..but for breakdowney reasons. I think Americans in the US are perhaps more comfortable with lip syncing because pop stars do it here all the time. 

 

4 - I understand what you're saying but I guess since Brit has rarely ever sang live since her start, I don't really expect it from her as a performer. Even if she is dancing less, I don't have any expectation for her to sing live. I think the Media & General Public here would prefer she not sing live even while dancing less because she never really did before and everyone is well aware that she doesn't have a vocalist voice so for her to try would seem like she was trying to be something she's not. It's not what fans here expect or want from her. I think the  US media would probably pick on her more if she did. Kinda of like wanting someone to "stick to their strengths" 

 

5 - It's actually the opposite here in the US. Other performers get trashed by the media for lip syncing like Madonna, or Beyonce but Britney just seems to get a free pass from the media. I think since she has always lip sycned and everyone still liked her anyway for 15 yrs that the media just accepts that it's ok for Britney but not for other pop stars. I totally get what you're saying about JLO she does dance hard and doesn't lip sync as much, but she's still no where near as popular as Britney. Not even close. She needs another hit bad! The US prefers a lip syncing, 1/2 Dancney 1/2 armography Brit over a workin it JLO.. lol 

[ItsNathanbitch]

OMG #TRUTH 

 

 

 

 

Your m&g photo is flawless btw!

[paula24bs]

Good point! She could sing during the sitting down parts of Slave. I guess I just have never expected her to sing live because she rarely does so it's not really something I would get that excited for.. but I would love it if there was a cover or something exciting on the next tour. I know she can't for POM because it's a Hits show, but on the next tour a cover would be great. She took Burning Up out of the set list before the FF tour show that I went to so that was sad 

I love covers made by britney, I always love her versions so much, that would be awesome if she did it again

[gimmework]

 

 

 

 

Your m&g photo is flawless btw!

 

OMG Thanks so much darling!    You're a flawless member! 

Yeah it's my pride and joy. I told all my friends that thought it wasn't worth the money to wait and see because I knew I wasn't going to settle for a "normal" smiley pic   She was super sweet and totally down to do kissey face! 

[britneystanstan]

OMG Thanks so much darling!    You're a flawless member! 

Yeah it's my pride and joy. I told all my friends that thought it wasn't worth the money to wait and see because I knew I wasn't going to settle for a "normal" smiley pic   She was super sweet and totally down to do kissey face! 

 

How was she for your M&G btw Did she seem comfortable and friendly?? It looks like she liked you