How Did The Myah Rumors Start?

[▲▼▲BlackoutZone▲▼▲]

OMG I can't with heather. Basically:-

- some collectors got the files directly from the label cos they're professional producers (Country Club Martini Crew)

- some collectors got the files through "hacking" Sony's database (there was a MASSIVE loophole in the system)

- these collectors are not haters in the slightest. Do you honestly think haters would risk being prosecuted for a bunch of stems?! And yes, due to Hold On Tight (acoustic) and the Alien vocal leak, RCA have been investigating these leaks.

- Britney does have vanity writing credits on Britney Jean. Tick Tick Boom session singer demo was on Youtube months before Britney Jean came out, the only difference was T.I.'s rap - I highly doubt Britney wrote his rap. Also, all the songs on Britney Jean are published under "Britney Spears Music" - apart from Passenger. Which suggests Sia presented it to Britney after writing it with Katy Perry. If Britney wrote it, it would be under her publishing.

Finally! Thank You for this!

[heather]

OMG I can't with heather. Basically:-

 

- some collectors got the files directly from the label cos they're professional producers (Country Club Martini Crew)

- some collectors got the files through "hacking" Sony's database (there was a MASSIVE loophole in the system)

- these collectors are not haters in the slightest. Do you honestly think haters would risk being prosecuted for a bunch of stems?! And yes, due to Hold On Tight (acoustic) and the Alien vocal leak, RCA have been investigating these leaks.

- Britney does have vanity writing credits on Britney Jean. Tick Tick Boom session singer demo was on Youtube months before Britney Jean came out, the only difference was T.I.'s rap - I highly doubt Britney wrote his rap. Also, all the songs on Britney Jean are published under "Britney Spears Music" - apart from Passenger. Which suggests Sia presented it to Britney after writing it with Katy Perry. If Britney wrote it, it would be under her publishing. 

are you really suggesting someone isn't going to hack and then release for fear of prosecution? how do you explain the many celebs that just had their iclouds hacked and private nude photos released?

 

you still have yet to prove that people have full, complete stems and recording sessions.

[EnjoyTheRide]

are you really suggesting someone isn't going to hack and then release for fear of prosecution? how do you explain the many celebs that just had their iclouds hacked and private nude photos released?

 

you still have yet to prove that people have full, complete stems and recording sessions.

 

Yes, quite simply. There are ALOT of files collectors have - stuff we can only dream about - that hasn't or will ever leak. Mainly cos A) people will risk imprisonment or a hefty fine B) people see it damaging to leak certain aspects of these RS files *cough* Alien raw vocal *cough* and C) people have spent a lot of money obtaining these files, they aren't going to leak them willy nilly. 

 

And as for you proof:

 

 

 

 

 

But you clearly think Britney writes, produces, sings perfectly without backing vocalists, choreographs her own performances, directs her own music videos, takes her own photoshoots....

[heather]

Yes, quite simply. There are ALOT of files collectors have - stuff we can only dream about - that hasn't or will ever leak. Mainly cos A) people will risk imprisonment or a hefty fine B) people see it damaging to leak certain aspects of these RS files *cough* Alien raw vocal *cough* and C) people have spent a lot of money obtaining these files, they aren't going to leak them willy nilly. 

 

And as for you proof:

 

 

 

 

 

But you clearly think Britney writes, produces sings perfectly without backing vocalists, choreographs her own performances, directs her own music videos, takes her own photoshoots....

some people fear prosecution, and some people don't give a fuck. that doesn't explain anything.

 

this, also, is proof of nothing. just what these particular people were able to get their hands on.

 

and yes, clearly, that's what i believe

[EnjoyTheRide]

some people fear prosecution, and some people don't give a fuck. that doesn't explain anything.

 

this, also, is proof of nothing. just what these particular people were able to get their hands on.

 

and yes, clearly, that's what i believe

 

But the people who don't give a fuck are the people who end up being blacklisted with traders, hence not getting new material. So people have nothing to gain from leaking stuff. 

 

And you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Thinking Sony would upload incomplete RS packs to their database...

[heather]

But the people who don't give a fuck are the people who end up being blacklisted with traders, hence not getting new material. So people have nothing to gain from leaking stuff. 

 

And you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Thinking Sony would upload incomplete RS packs to their database...

and yet things still get leaked all the time

 

and that's not what i said sony aren't the ones that made these remixes, "collectors" and other "professionals" are. "collectors" and other "professionals" are claiming these are their only files, these are all they have, they don't have britney's. "collectors" and other "professionals" are totally telling the truth and wouldn't ever lie, ever

[ooh la la]

the rumours started when fans listened to her britney jean album and heard that it wasn't her singing in parts. it is a pretty basic thing for fans to have trust in the person they are fans of that they are singing on the album they are buying and going to listen to for the decades to come. i don't get why they had someone else sing in the first place could she not of done a couple of takes and got a good sounding one.

[EnjoyTheRide]

and yet things still get leaked all the time

 

and that's not what i said sony aren't the ones that made these remixes, "collectors" and other "professionals" are. "collectors" and other "professionals" are claiming these are their only files, these are all they have, they don't have britney's. "collectors" and other "professionals" are totally telling the truth and wouldn't ever lie, ever

 

So because things get leaked "all the time" doesn't mean they're not investigated. The day the raw Alien vocal leaked, her team blocked every upload. And, like I said, they were investigating the Hold On Tight (acoustic), because they had no idea how someone obtained the raw vocal. Just because we don't hear about them, doesn't mean label just brush them off...

 

And what would they gain from lying, exactly? If they're looking to trade, surely they would WANT Britney's raw vocals to be in the packs, cos otherwise they're useless then. Why would a Britney fan want some raw Myah Marie vocals?

 

You really need to look into who is sharing this info with us, it's people who have provided us with a lot in the past...

[tarotx]

The files in question here were leaked not released by Sony.

 

If I had to guess these were leaked by someone wanting to get Myah Marie some press. Maybe get Britney some bad press. If you want to raise the value of an artist who sounds somewhat like Britney, you damage the original artist if you can. Maybe it was the someone who added the Glitch to Alien for no reason...

[EnjoyTheRide]

The files in question here were leaked not released by Sony.

 

The RS packs were stolen from Sony's database. 

[David]

Oh lol, here it comes. 

 

These rumours didn't all start on Exhale, nor do the collectors who shared some info post on Exhale either! And, by the way, these collectors got their stems right from the source (the record label). So it's not a case of a trader giving them incomplete stem packs, lmao.

 

 

Yes, she is on everything apart from Perfume & Don't Cry.

 

You're making it sound as if Myah's influence on other songs (excluding Body Ache and Passenger) was huge and that's untrue. I remember someone posted Myah's vocals from Hold On Tight and she only sung a few seconds in the background, nothing major, everything was pretty much Britney. You can hear her repeat a few words in the background on Til It's Gone as well but that's about it. She may have been on most tracks but that doesn't mean she pulled a Passenger on all of them. 

[heather]

So because things get leaked "all the time" doesn't mean they're not investigated. The day the raw Alien vocal leaked, her team blocked every upload. And, like I said, they were investigating the Hold On Tight (acoustic), because they had no idea how someone obtained the raw vocal. Just because we don't hear about them, doesn't mean label just brush them off...

 

And what would they gain from lying, exactly? If they're looking to trade, surely they would WANT Britney's raw vocals to be in the packs, cos otherwise they're useless then. Why would a Britney fan want some raw Myah Marie vocals?

 

You really need to look into who is sharing this info with us, it's people who have provided us with a lot in the past...

i'm unsure why we're having this discussion about leaks, but yes. you're right, they do get investigated. and yet that doesn't stop people from hacking and eventually leaking what they've hacked. does that mean someone is going to leak EVERY SINGLE THING they hacked? hell no.

 

i already said what they'd gain from it. to discredit britney as an artist, and as someone already said, give some good press myah's way.

 

it doesn't matter WHO is sharing it. there is NO solid proof that they are sharing EVERYTHING they have or EVERYTHING that exists. bottom line

[EnjoyTheRide]

You're making it sound as if Myah's influence on other songs (excluding Body Ache and Passenger) was huge and that's untrue. I remember someone posted Myah's vocals from Hold On Tight and she only sung a few seconds in the background, nothing major, everything was pretty much Britney. You can hear her repeat a few words in the background on Til It's Gone as well but that's about it. She may have been on most tracks but that doesn't mean she pulled a Passenger on all of them. 

 

Oh, I know that, and I didn't mean that by my post at all. The two tracks where she is heavily on is Passenger & Body Ache. 

 

This is a breakdown of what's what:

 

Alien (chorus, not alone parts)

Work Bitch (backing vocals on the middle 8)

Tick Tick Boom (adlib runs near the end)

Body Ache (second verse + chorus)

Till It's Gone (chorus) 

Chillin' With You (bridge + chorus)

Now That I Found You (bridge + chorus)

Hold On Tight (chorus, and some words have been pasted in the verses, which is odd)

[njcthree]

No this bullshit all started when Nick* said myah was on it to gain publicity- im about to blow up ur entire theory- if traders, collectors, or whatever were so afraid of getting in trouble or burning their bridges (which is why they wont leak stems according to you) then A. they would NEVER say Myah was on the track if she really was B. They would never make remixes and release them either right? 

Also would sony really release stems with another vocalists voice on them?!  Also- if these collectors are so open about myah then why not release them anonymously- clearly they arent afraid of saying myah's on them so whats the big deal?! they are full of shit is what the big deal is- also as for alien raw vocals-  it was a warm up- listen to the clip of shania twain recording endless love with lionel richie - shes doing the same thing- even rihanna has said sometimes she'll go into studio and for whatever the reason not be able to hit certain notes.  plus when just the main vocal mix has been released on songs u can clearly hear its britney- if britney can sing perfume and dont cry - she can clearly sing so why even hire someone to sing her songs- myah is backing vocals and thats it- if u listen to toxic acoustic version britney is hitting teh same notes and doing the same thing with her voice as she does in passenger.

[EnjoyTheRide]

i'm unsure why we're having this discussion about leaks, but yes. you're right, they do get investigated. and yet that doesn't stop people from hacking and eventually leaking what they've hacked. does that mean someone is going to leak EVERY SINGLE THING they hacked? hell no.

 

i already said what they'd gain from it. to discredit britney as an artist, and as someone already said, give some good press myah's way.

 

it doesn't matter WHO is sharing it. there is NO solid proof that they are sharing EVERYTHING they have or EVERYTHING that exists. bottom line

 

But if they leak it doesn't mean the people who hacked to get them leaked them? They get traded down and down and down a line, until there's someone who is untrustworthy leaks them. 

 

But, these people who have them are FANS?! In fact, they're stans. And have been for years, they've provided us with some much in the past. The reason why they shared the info with us is cos they're upset Britney's team handled the album they way they did. No, they're not the ones who leaked the Alien raw vocal, cos they foresaw how much damage it would do. 

 

Well there is solid proof, on the album. If you're a Britney fan, who has listened to her voice non stop for 15 years, then you can clearly tell her voice. That is not Britney on the chorus of Passenger, or the second verse of Body Ache. 

[David]

Oh, I know that, and I didn't mean that by my post at all. The two tracks where she is heavily on is Passenger & Body Ache. 

 

This is a breakdown of what's what:

 

Alien (chorus, not alone parts)

Work Bitch (backing vocals on the middle 8)

Tick Tick Boom (adlib runs near the end)

Body Ache (second verse + chorus)

Till It's Gone (chorus) 

Chillin' With You (bridge + chorus)

Now That I Found You (bridge + chorus)

Hold On Tight (chorus, and some words have been pasted in the verses, which is odd)

 

Let's just hope RCA and her team learns on their mistakes and will not include Myah on any of Britney's future projects again. 

[kermit]

omg i wish the topic of myah marie would just be banned

[JhoNey]

No this bullshit all started when Nick* said myah was on it to gain publicity- im about to blow up ur entire theory- if traders, collectors, or whatever were so afraid of getting in trouble or burning their bridges (which is why they wont leak stems according to you) then A. they would NEVER say Myah was on the track if she really was B. They would never make remixes and release them either right? 

Also would sony really release stems with another vocalists voice on them?!  Also- if these collectors are so open about myah then why not release them anonymously- clearly they arent afraid of saying myah's on them so whats the big deal?! they are full of shit is what the big deal is- also as for alien raw vocals-  it was a warm up- listen to the clip of shania twain recording endless love with lionel richie - shes doing the same thing- even rihanna has said sometimes she'll go into studio and for whatever the reason not be able to hit certain notes.  plus when just the main vocal mix has been released on songs u can clearly hear its britney- if britney can sing perfume and dont cry - she can clearly sing so why even hire someone to sing her songs- myah is backing vocals and thats it- if u listen to toxic acoustic version britney is hitting teh same notes and doing the same thing with her voice as she does in passenger.

 

this makes a lot of sense tbh 

 

 

I hate how some people claim to know the absolute truth when we never will,because none of us worked on the album.

It also gets me that they're afraid to get in trouble for leaking the stems,but talk so open about them and about this myah thing wich can get them in even more trouble

 

also,do you SERIOUSLY believe no one would try to diss britney for leaking false info? 

REALLY? you think everyone LOVE her just because they said so ?

 

maybe that's not the case here but it can be very real.

 

 

 

 

What I don't understand is:

 

why use myah vocals when Britney can clearly sing them.Myah tracks and demos are full of auto-tune and melodyne

 

 

 

So this is all really weird and no one knows what happened for sure,so let's calm down 

[JhoNey]

omg i wish the topic of myah marie would just be banned

IKR? 

 

it's so tirying and only causes fights 

[heather]

No this bullshit all started when Nick* said myah was on it to gain publicity- im about to blow up ur entire theory- if traders, collectors, or whatever were so afraid of getting in trouble or burning their bridges (which is why they wont leak stems according to you) then A. they would NEVER say Myah was on the track if she really was B. They would never make remixes and release them either right? 

Also would sony really release stems with another vocalists voice on them?!  Also- if these collectors are so open about myah then why not release them anonymously- clearly they arent afraid of saying myah's on them so whats the big deal?! they are full of shit is what the big deal is- also as for alien raw vocals-  it was a warm up- listen to the clip of shania twain recording endless love with lionel richie - shes doing the same thing- even rihanna has said sometimes she'll go into studio and for whatever the reason not be able to hit certain notes.  plus when just the main vocal mix has been released on songs u can clearly hear its britney- if britney can sing perfume and dont cry - she can clearly sing so why even hire someone to sing her songs- myah is backing vocals and thats it- if u listen to toxic acoustic version britney is hitting teh same notes and doing the same thing with her voice as she does in passenger.

 

i never once said it's because they're afraid of getting in trouble, for the third time i'm saying it's to discredit britney as an artist which is exactly why they would only release myah's.

 

i completely agree with you that myah is only backing vocals, and it's what i've been saying all along.

 

But if they leak it doesn't mean the people who hacked to get them leaked them? They get traded down and down and down a line, until there's someone who is untrustworthy leaks them. 

 

But, these people who have them are FANS?! In fact, they're stans. And have been for years, they've provided us with some much in the past. The reason why they shared the info with us is cos they're upset Britney's team handled the album they way they did. No, they're not the ones who leaked the Alien raw vocal, cos they foresaw how much damage it would do. 

 

Well there is solid proof, on the album. If you're a Britney fan, who has listened to her voice non stop for 15 years, then you can clearly tell her voice. That is not Britney on the chorus of Passenger, or the second verse of Body Ache. 

not everyone who has these leaks and such are fans, and like i've already said in this thread even "fans" do shit like this all the time to discredit britney. hello the whole "she's lipping to sia's vocals in vegas" bullshit that started because of "FANS"

 

that's not solid proof, that's one person's opinion.

[EnjoyTheRide]

No this bullshit all started when Nick* said myah was on it to gain publicity- im about to blow up ur entire theory- if traders, collectors, or whatever were so afraid of getting in trouble or burning their bridges (which is why they wont leak stems according to you) then A. they would NEVER say Myah was on the track if she really was B. They would never make remixes and release them either right? 

Also would sony really release stems with another vocalists voice on them?!  Also- if these collectors are so open about myah then why not release them anonymously- clearly they arent afraid of saying myah's on them so whats the big deal?! they are full of shit is what the big deal is- also as for alien raw vocals-  it was a warm up- listen to the clip of shania twain recording endless love with lionel richie - shes doing the same thing- even rihanna has said sometimes she'll go into studio and for whatever the reason not be able to hit certain notes.  plus when just the main vocal mix has been released on songs u can clearly hear its britney- if britney can sing perfume and dont cry - she can clearly sing so why even hire someone to sing her songs- myah is backing vocals and thats it- if u listen to toxic acoustic version britney is hitting teh same notes and doing the same thing with her voice as she does in passenger.

 

Sony didn't "release" them. They were on their database, NOT to be heard by the public. Recording Sessions has ever little detail from a song separated into hundreds of different files. So, for example, Keri Hilson & Danja did backing vocals on Break The Ice. In the Break The Ice session, EVERYTHING is included, Danja's vocal takes, Keri's vocal takes. This is Keri's vocals from the Break The Ice sessions that leaked:

 

 

You've also proved a point with Toxic. On the final version, Britney isn't on the chorus, it's Cathy Dennis. Listen to Cathy's demo, it's the same vocal. But, in Toxic's recording sessions, you can find Britney's vocal for the chorus. So, if Britney did record a chorus vocal for Passenger, and it wasn't used, it would still be in the pack...

[I_need_me]

All the songs expect Perfume and Don't Cry? Call me a flop fan, but I don't think I hear Myah in Til it's gone or It should be easy 

[tarotx]

The RS packs were stolen from Sony's database. 

But they weren't released to official remixers. Did a bunch of people break in and steal BJ files or did someone get a hold of them and that "theft" went around?

[EnjoyTheRide]

But they weren't released to official remixers. Did a bunch of people break in and steal BJ files or did someone get a hold of them and that "theft" went around?

 

Work Bitch, Perfume, It Should Be Easy & Tick Tick Boom were, but the rest weren't. 

 

Back in 2011, Sony's database had a MASSIVE loophole - it was something to do with the logging in system, you could gain access very easily. The files that were stolen were basically all of the Femme Fatale tour tracks (as well as Criminal & Don't Keep Me Waiting) DLMTLTK wasn't there, though. I'm not sure if this loophole was rectified before or after Britney Jean. 

 

Some fans still have access to the database, purely due to their jobs.