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Well, considering how media and gp like to bash her and hate on her, they probably pissed all over her selfesteem and actually convinced her that shes not talented. Maybe she thinks shes not talented or good enough to choose her own music :crying2: but if she only knew how much talent god gave her she would be firing all the bitches around and just do her thing :crying1: Can someone tell her this on pom? in a letter or something? im too poor to go :gloria:

I'm actually starting to believe that...and I think that explains why she doesn't sing live not even the ballads...she seems insecure about her talent...which is weird if that's what's really happening, cause she has an amazing career...she should focus on the positive things to give her confidence...

 

but she seems in a better place now (from what we've seen in the lingerie interviews) so let's hope that she takes her time with this new album and I hope, I really hope, that it's gonna be like she wants...

 

and I'm to poor to go to POM as well, so I guess that's not a choice :gloria:

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So many of us (including me) were always complaining how Britney is not involved enough with her music, and the songs she makes. However today, while i was vacuum cleaning my apartment (i like to think about things when i do that lol ) it suddenly came to me. What if, Britney chose it to be this way from the beginning? Remember when she made a co-ed remix of boys with Farell it was Justin who introduced him to britney and it was justin who convinced him to do it. Maybe because Britney was always VERY shy and humble, she decided the easier way out would be to simply let other people make those decisions and maybe ask her if she likes it enough? She did prove herself wrong with blackout tho, its her best album :tbh: . Thoughts you guys?

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I don't know because for examplen Blackout was produced by her with the direction that she wanted. I just think the first 2 albums were all influenced by her record label because she was new and the wanted to maker a superstar, a "product".. I think she gained more control over the years because In The Zone was also most of it all her. But after her Breakdown and her problems i think she lost control again and maybe at first her label didn't trust her to make decisions and now honestly with everything that is going on in her life and sharing custody of her kids i think she chose not being in control of everything.

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BJ just wasn't finished and they put it out any way. It has a ton of potential. Britney was using it for Vegas promo and RCA has performing/touring attached to her album release so Yeah BJ had to come out when it wasn't ready. And I think BJ wasn't ready because they had Will in charge and he passed the Buck to Anthony Preston and Jean-Baptiste. Then the Jean-Baptiste songs were pulled and given to other artist. No matter what they say those songs were being written and recorded at the same time as BJ. 

 

I know this will make some of your eyes roll but Britney is kind of an emotional empath and she responds to how the people are around her. It's also why the person/people she actually works with ends up a dominate presence on the album. For Britney when others are happy and energized she will get happy and excited. Though it has to be real cause Britney will sense any disrespect as well as any undercurrent of fear. She will become awkward and then they have to work with an awkward Britney.  

 

That is why Britney really needs to work with a lot of people. Not just record with one vocal producer while never meeting the producer of the song or the main writers. Then Britney can form an album the way she wants it to go since she will have songs from a muti &diverse group of people she actually worked with. 

 

If they could get a writer producer who could be at Britney's beck and call and be one that really supports what she wants to do that would be cool too. But they need Britney in with people who understand that she's going to be feeding off their moods. 

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BJ just wasn't finished and they put it out any way. It has a ton of potential. Britney was using it for Vegas promo and RCA has performing/touring attached to her album release so Yeah BJ had to come out when it wasn't ready. And I think BJ wasn't ready because they had Will in charge and he passed the Buck to Anthony Preston and Jean-Baptiste. Then the Jean-Baptiste songs were pulled and given to other artist. No matter what they say those songs were being written and recorded at the same time as BJ. 

 

I know this will make some of your eyes roll but Britney is kind of an emotional empath and she responds to how the people are around her. It's also why the person/people she actually works with ends up a dominate presence on the album. For Britney when others are happy and energized she will get happy and excited. Though it has to be real cause Britney will sense any disrespect as well as any undercurrent of fear. She will become awkward and then they have to work with an awkward Britney.  

 

That is why Britney really needs to work with a lot of people. Not just record with one vocal producer while never meeting the producer of the song or the main writers. Then Britney can form an album the way she wants it to go since she will have songs from a muti &diverse group of people she actually worked with. 

 

If they could get a writer producer who could be at Britney's beck and call and be one that really supports what she wants to do that would be cool too. But they need Britney in with people who understand that she's going to be feeding off their moods. 

That's actually pretty legit :umomg: i do think she's an empath too, I just think she needs to be mroe involved with everything, the song writers, the producers, the background vocalists, i think it will give her the passion once she sees how much effort stands behind a single song she does! :D

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I've always felt that Britney is far more involved in her music and her career than people think she is. It's just that she doesn't brag about it, so people assume that she has no creative control. And as soon as something happens which her fans don't like, they blame the producers or the management when in reality, it was probably Britney's choice.


 


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I've always felt that Britney is far more involved in her music and her career than people think she is. It's just that she doesn't brag about it, so people assume that she has no creative control. And as soon as something happens which her fans don't like, they blame the producers or the management when in reality, it was probably Britney's choice.

 

:mahhaw:

 

could be :tbh:

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blackout slays my life. i love why should i be sad or get back!! britney has talent and shouldn´t hide this behind some producers like will.i.am...maybe max martin or danja or william orbit.. but at the end she should decide what makes the cut!!!!!!!!!! 

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I've always felt that Britney is far more involved in her music and her career than people think she is. It's just that she doesn't brag about it, so people assume that she has no creative control. And as soon as something happens which her fans don't like, they blame the producers or the management when in reality, it was probably Britney's choice.

 

:mahhaw:

 

but if britney is not into it she is not into it. you can see that in her eyes and her behavior. britney wanted alien to be a single. she really liked that song, but what happend. i don´t think it was her decision.

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Blackjack I've been staring at your pic for a while now :gloria:




And when I clean, I play some of Britney's music, and I think about a lot of things too :orangu:




And I believe you're right  ;)  

 

ikr? people tend to say 2007 was her worst year, but thats the year she got sick of all the money cock sucking whores around her and broke the chains and simply made an album she likes , the way she wants it. 2007 was bad for her indeed, but I wish she kept the attitude for making music up to this day, imagine all the flawlessness we would be getting

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there may be partial truth to this, but it isn't the whole truth and a bit simplified

 

The JT analogy is also a second hand account. Maybe Britney and JT discussed it in private and then he introduced them...in fact that seems more likely, but even if it isn't Britney's willingness to trust others and her intuition w music is a talent

 

I think she is in alot more control than people think. For her entire prime she was the hardest worker in the industry, she over-worked herself, which you wouldn't do if you didn't have ambition

 

Besides, all of her albums have her input or else they wouldn't exist, especially OIDIA and onward. She is not a simple studio session musician. As a musician myself, I know that other musicians have an ego and have their own input on music projects. Musically, Britney has a signature style which cannot be forced or manufactured. Most artists fail because they don't have their own style, which is their contribution to music. Style is the hardest thing for any artist to cultivate, and Britney has her own.

 

The producer - musician relationship is kinda like actor - director relationship. The dynamics are a relationship between the two, and both must work together and sometimes fulfill the job of the other  

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Blackjack I've been staring at your pic for a while now :gloria:

And when I clean, I play some of Britney's music, and I think about a lot of things too :orangu:

And I believe you're right  ;)  

lol thank you :embarrassed: I was training for a year for my gym body so I thought it's about time I allow myself some exposure :P:lolll:

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there may be partial truth to this, but it isn't the whole truth and a bit simplified

 

The JT analogy is also a second hand account. Maybe Britney and JT discussed it in private and then he introduced them...in fact that seems more likely, but even if it isn't Britney's willingness to trust others and her intuition w music is a talent

 

I think she is in alot more control than people think. For her entire prime she was the hardest worker in the industry, she over-worked herself, which you wouldn't do if you didn't have ambition

 

Besides, all of her albums have her input or else they wouldn't exist, especially OIDIA and onward. She is not a simple studio session musician. As a musician myself, I know that other musicians have an ego and have their own input on music projects. Musically, Britney has a signature style which cannot be forced or manufactured. Most artists fail because they don't have their own style, which is their contribution to music. Style is the hardest thing for any artist to cultivate, and Britney has her own.

 

The producer - musician relationship is kinda like actor - director relationship. The dynamics are a relationship between the two, and both must work together and sometimes fulfill the job of the other  

hmmm it's nice to hear an opinion of a person who actually is in the same kind of business Britney is, and I like the way you explained things, so you think brit actually is involved in her albums a lot? :)

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hmmm it's nice to hear an opinion of a person who actually is in the same kind of business Britney is, and I like the way you explained things, so you think brit actually is involved in her albums a lot? :)

I think she is definitely involved but it is hard to say. In some aspects she is very involved, and others she takes direction. I see it as a work relationship too, like it's good to know when to give direction and how to take it too...

 

Also, it surely differs from song to song, and album to album...but it is actually quite hard to say exactly how much. Also, preparing for the album, research, ideas, business details, and experiments she may want to try out are not so easily seen either.

 

Each album there are a quite a large number of songs that don't make it to the final cut. That may be more executive decisions that she may not be as involved in, or have less say. There are most likely several albums worth of Britney material. She has her own studio, and there's a studio in her mom's house in Louisiana...so who's to say how much material is really out there? I'm sure she warms up, has fun w music, and experiments on her own, and surely has some demo songs she has worked on that not even her label knows of. She almost definitely has some musician friends or colleagues outside of the label that she at least discusses music with, and some of them probably have written songs w her or just doodled around for fun 

 

There are tons of songs registered that we haven't heard, and tons of writers/musicians/producers have spoken of songs or collabs in interviews that have not seen the light of day.

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Hmmm, of course we'll never know how involved she really is. But I think people don't give her enough credit. She's not exactly trying to prove people they're wrong either, isn't she? She's way too humble, which makes her look like a puppet that makes no decisions by herself.

 

BUT, she wasn't happy with the original concept of the BOMT video. She pushed for the release of Toxic, didn't she ask Madonna to collaborate on MATM? And I guess there's lots of other stuff we don't know about.

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