timbits Posted October 1, 2014 #51 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Britney's private jet and fuck yah to the Kurt tie-in...obviously way different people and appeal, but at the same time there are some major parallels (especially pop culture/fame related). He was basically the last iconic rockstar*, and it's ironic that he was an "everyday Raegan youth" but managed to galvanize an entire demographic of young people and got propped up as a demigod in his life...then fame got the better of him. *when I say Iconic I mean like Elvis, John Lennon, Dylan, etc. legend...not like you could argue Green Day is iconic for a 90s or punk, but in a broader transcendent cultural way Britney's legend will be written similarly in several ways. She was totally the girl next door, and basically relatable to everyone in their youth since the Clinton administration. Britney-mania was real...I was there in the middle of it, completely a mess of a fanboy. The first 4 eras, she was everywhere...until fame became corrosive and tried to tear her apart. The kind of fame she reached is beyond a "normal" celebrities, and she was catapulted out there in the dark with a kind of endearing naivete that makes her so lovable. She obviously, changed the trajectory of the music industry and played a larger role in popculture (which is now assimilated into the fabric of Western culture). Both, Nirvana and Britney are seen as bookends to the 90s, as far apart yet so similar in several respects. Their fame was maybe expected to a much lesser level, but when they actually emerged onto the "scene" it was far more explosive than anyone could have imagined. Both had a wave of copycats (or if we want to be more forgiving inspired acts) and were centered in a kind of cultural epidemic that broke free of the monotony of daily life. Music became newsworthy and definitive. Before their fame, the culture was just ripe and ready for the likes of them. Obviously its almost overstated how Raeganism, corporate rock, disenfranchising pop music, and shallow ideals drove an entire 80s subterranean youth culture to stew in a new honest and more representative "scene", we might now call indie or underground. But the underground usurped the throne after the spark of Teen Spirit and the rest is history. In Britney's case, the shallowing and generic popular radio trends (of all genres) following the "death" of real hip hop and the grunge movement made the culture ready for a new hero. No Kurt, no Tupac, no Biggie...in comes boybands and the Spice Girls to bring the world a sense of unabashed fun and light-hearted joy that we could now enjoy (and take for granted) following the Cold War. Well, there were too many boybands and the Spice Girls basically broke up leaving the spot open for an unashamed celebratory hero...and Britney stole the show. She was fun, relatable, squeaky clean, talented, and exciting. Britney mania just filled a void and dominated, and with her prolific career she also unintentionally revived and fueled modern paparazzi culture. Today her fame is only a shadow (reference intended) of her former spotlight...but much of that is intentional, and better for her as a human being. She was truly one of the hardest working entertainers especially during her prime. Obviously, I could go on, but I'll end this soapbox rant here no more please more please. I love it. It was intense it had like drama, comedy, ect, ect, ect.... You could make a book out of this. Please more 1
Far Beyond Posted October 1, 2014 #53 Report Posted October 1, 2014 no more please more please. I love it. It was intense it had like drama, comedy, ect, ect, ect.... You could make a book out of this. Please more you want more, well I'll give ya more there will be more to come 2
timbits Posted October 1, 2014 #54 Report Posted October 1, 2014 you want more, well I'll give ya more there will be more to come When hun 2
timbits Posted October 1, 2014 #56 Report Posted October 1, 2014 I...don't...know Dammit grandpa hurry up will ya the titanic doesn't have all day to wait for me and rose is getting impatient 2
Far Beyond Posted October 1, 2014 #57 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Dammit grandpa hurry up will ya the titanic doesn't have all day to wait for me and rose is getting impatient 1
MELIODAS Posted October 1, 2014 #59 Report Posted October 1, 2014 congrats bb!!! :clap: and you love dangerous too 1
ValetGirls Posted October 1, 2014 #60 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Britney's private jet and fuck yah to the Kurt tie-in...obviously way different people and appeal, but at the same time there are some major parallels (especially pop culture/fame related). He was basically the last iconic rockstar*, and it's ironic that he was an "everyday Raegan youth" but managed to galvanize an entire demographic of young people and got propped up as a demigod in his life...then fame got the better of him. *when I say Iconic I mean like Elvis, John Lennon, Dylan, etc. legend...not like you could argue Green Day is iconic for a 90s or punk, but in a broader transcendent cultural way Britney's legend will be written similarly in several ways. She was totally the girl next door, and basically relatable to everyone in their youth since the Clinton administration. Britney-mania was real...I was there in the middle of it, completely a mess of a fanboy. The first 4 eras, she was everywhere...until fame became corrosive and tried to tear her apart. The kind of fame she reached is beyond a "normal" celebrities, and she was catapulted out there in the dark with a kind of endearing naivete that makes her so lovable. She obviously, changed the trajectory of the music industry and played a larger role in popculture (which is now assimilated into the fabric of Western culture). Both, Nirvana and Britney are seen as bookends to the 90s, as far apart yet so similar in several respects. Their fame was maybe expected to a much lesser level, but when they actually emerged onto the "scene" it was far more explosive than anyone could have imagined. Both had a wave of copycats (or if we want to be more forgiving inspired acts) and were centered in a kind of cultural epidemic that broke free of the monotony of daily life. Music became newsworthy and definitive. Before their fame, the culture was just ripe and ready for the likes of them. Obviously its almost overstated how Raeganism, corporate rock, disenfranchising pop music, and shallow ideals drove an entire 80s subterranean youth culture to stew in a new honest and more representative "scene", we might now call indie or underground. But the underground usurped the throne after the spark of Teen Spirit and the rest is history. In Britney's case, the shallowing and generic popular radio trends (of all genres) following the "death" of real hip hop and the grunge movement made the culture ready for a new hero. No Kurt, no Tupac, no Biggie...in comes boybands and the Spice Girls to bring the world a sense of unabashed fun and light-hearted joy that we could now enjoy (and take for granted) following the Cold War. Well, there were too many boybands and the Spice Girls basically broke up leaving the spot open for an unashamed celebratory hero...and Britney stole the show. She was fun, relatable, squeaky clean, talented, and exciting. Britney mania just filled a void and dominated, and with her prolific career she also unintentionally revived and fueled modern paparazzi culture. Today her fame is only a shadow (reference intended) of her former spotlight...but much of that is intentional, and better for her as a human being. She was truly one of the hardest working entertainers especially during her prime. Obviously, I could go on, but I'll end this soapbox rant here This is so true, Brit's timing was everything, and in reality, she was the product of several disparate variables that came before her that resulted in her being the most influential pop musician of the 21st Century so far. We need this subforum like now so I can sit and formalize my thoughts tbh You contribute to this place sooo much it's unbelievable how much you contribute (I hope you know you are the light to our life you give us so much life) without you this place wouldn't be amazing at all. Awe, thanks hun for such kind words. Keep rocking ,keep spreading that godney word around and knowledge and see you around this place man. Good night lahv you dahling I love Universe and I wouldn't want it any other way 2
ValetGirls Posted October 1, 2014 #61 Report Posted October 1, 2014 congrats bb!!! :clap: and you love dangerous too Dangerous is an amazing song! The production is spot on, it's incredibly energetic, it never gets boring (at least to me) and it features Brit at her most sultry/sexy. Gahhh I could go on. They chose the wrong Nicole Morier offering tbh how the fuck did mmm papi even contend against it???
ValetGirls Posted October 3, 2014 #63 Report Posted October 3, 2014 OMG YAS YOU ROCK GURL, NICK! DAHLING YOU'RE BACK HALLELUJAH PRAISE DA LORT :hugs: and thank you
Archie Posted October 3, 2014 #64 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Slay Valet :thumbsup: It was so good to get to know you better in the Series, Movies and Books thread as a person and I love knowing you as a fan in this thread 1
ValetGirls Posted October 3, 2014 #65 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Slay Valet :thumbsup: It was so good to get to know you better in the Series, Movies and Books thread as a person and I love knowing you as a fan in this thread that's very thoughtful and genuine of you to comment tbh There's so many people on this forum that'd I'd totally hang out with if we were all just geographically closer keep me posted on your post-grad career!!! that's all happening so soon
ValetGirls Posted October 3, 2014 #66 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Slay Valet :thumbsup: It was so good to get to know you better in the Series, Movies and Books thread as a person and I love knowing you as a fan in this thread and prepare for the inevitable bump later when I go see Gone Girl I'm so excited to see it!!
Archie Posted October 3, 2014 #67 Report Posted October 3, 2014 that's very thoughtful and genuine of you to comment tbh There's so many people on this forum that'd I'd totally hang out with if we were all just geographically closer keep me posted on your post-grad career!!! that's all happening so soon Ok, I will and prepare for the inevitable bump later when I go see Gone Girl I'm so excited to see it!! YAAAASSSSS 1
MadDennis Posted October 4, 2014 #68 Report Posted October 4, 2014 Congrats!! And it's true about This Kiss
gimmework Posted October 7, 2014 #71 Report Posted October 7, 2014 YAY!!!!!!!!!! Congrats @valetgirls !!!!!!!!!! It was awesome getting to know more about you Nick! I agree with all of your BlackOutney stanning! On point!! Thanks for being an amazing/flawless member!
ValetGirls Posted October 7, 2014 #73 Report Posted October 7, 2014 YAY!!!!!!!!!! Congrats @valetgirls !!!!!!!!!! It was awesome getting to know more about you Nick! I agree with all of your BlackOutney stanning! On point!! Thanks for being an amazing/flawless member! thanks a bunch! and hollaaaaaa to another flawless Blackout stan!!
Term of Endearment Posted October 7, 2014 #75 Report Posted October 7, 2014 TOE YAAAAASSSSSSSSS I am so happy about this - you deserve it!!
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