Seeing What's Happening To Amanda Bynes Again, I'm Grateful For Brit's Dad

[Guest blehh]

IDEK who she is She's not that famous in europe

[Far Beyond]

Honestly, seeing the lives of Brit, Lindsay, Amanda, and Paris post-scandal/public ridicule damage control is almost like seeing different countries enact different policies in the face of the same economic crisis: some chose not to regulate their behavior, to varying results (Amanda & Lindsay), some chose to downsize their scope of fame (Paris) or some chose their career under extreme regulation (Britney). Each has yielded different results when it comes to lasting legacy and public legitimacy today, they're almost like little case studies that, save for Amanda who acted out a few years afterwards, all stem from similar circumstances.

 

Or maybe that's just the inner international economics major in me speaking

lol

yass, slay those different perspectives...you should write a Brit related essay from the standpoint of your major...who knows maybe you can also use it for future school assignments

 

the inner Foodney in me is speaking, and Im grateful for Brit's dad 

[Azrabrit]

One thing about Amanda is weird she was arrested bcz she was on prescription drugs Aderall.......

I just hope this won't stop her recovery....

Slipp is part of recovery.....

All the best for Amanda

[javi_spears]

Yeah... we should be grateful she could recover from all that 2007 shit

[carlitos'crib]

Lindsay's is actually getting really good reviews. It was only opening night she got bad reviews and she blamed it on being nervous which is reasonable.

As far as Britney being in the c-ship still... I think it bullshit. Britney has matured greatly since 2007. If she wants to make bad decisions as an adult she should be allowed to. She shouldn't have her rights taken away because of the millions of dollars on the line. I think it helped at the time but now I see no point for it.

 

I'm not really talking about the c-ship.  I'm not cool with it.

But Britney is lucky for having a family that cares about her, Lindsay's case is way different, her family is fucked up.

[ValetGirls]

lol

yass, slay those different perspectives...you should write a Brit related essay from the standpoint of your major...who knows maybe you can also use it for future school assignments

 

the inner Foodney in me is speaking, and Im grateful for Brit's dad 

 

Haha, y'all betta prepare your bodies, cuz like Papa Spears with cheese grits, I'mma boutta serve up a pipin' hot plate of "A Novel Meta-Analysis of American Celebrity Regulation 2007-2014: Implications for Career Longevity, Relevancy, Legacy, and Post-Scandal Growth"

 

It'll be fully cited and have multiple graphs and charts (in muted pastel colors too)

 

If you're still in school, prepare yourselves, because yo papers can have (ValetGirls, 2014) in em soon

[Far Beyond]

Haha, y'all betta prepare your bodies, cuz like Papa Spears with cheese grits, I'mma boutta serve up a pipin' hot plate of "A Novel Meta-Analysis of American Celebrity Regulation 2007-2014: Implications for Career Longevity, Relevancy, Legacy, and Post-Scandal Growth"

 

It'll be fully cited and have multiple graphs and charts (in muted pastel colors too)

 

If you're still in school, prepare yourselves, because yo papers can have (ValetGirls, 2014) in em soon

fuck yah

just do it baby

 

splatter your ambrosia all over dem papers 

 

We gotta get that section up and going...brainstorm topix/individual essay read n respond, etc

[LiaLovesGodney]

Haha, y'all betta prepare your bodies, cuz like Papa Spears with cheese grits, I'mma boutta serve up a pipin' hot plate of "A Novel Meta-Analysis of American Celebrity Regulation 2007-2014: Implications for Career Longevity, Relevancy, Legacy, and Post-Scandal Growth"

It'll be fully cited and have multiple graphs and charts (in muted pastel colors too)

If you're still in school, prepare yourselves, because yo papers can have (ValetGirls, 2014) in em soon

I love it. I wanna read it. I should include Britney in my thesis paper once I'm about to graduate. The adverse psychological effects of fame and ridicule on female public figures.

[ValetGirls]

fuck yah

just do it baby

 

splatter your ambrosia all over dem papers 

 

We gotta get that section up and going...brainstorm topix/individual essay read n respond, etc

 

 

I love it. I wanna read it. I should include Britney in my thesis paper once I'm about to graduate. The adverse psychological effects of fame and ridicule on female public figures.

 

I looked up pop culture academic journals and I feel like I could easily write something. Considering I already have an associate's degree, it could actually look credible I have no idea how rigorous the examination process is (I've been involved in scientific journal publication as an undergrad and it's hella difficult, but that's for hard sciences, this would be more sociology), but looking at some of the titles and writing styles...

 

My idea would be to normalize the profit margins and yearly earnings of Brit/Paris/Lindsay/Amanda by taking the log and putting it over time and see if any trends emerge. Maybe even throw in Robert Downey, Jr. as another example of someone who careened outta control and who re-legitimized himself and is now the highest-paid Hollywood actor since kickstarting his career again on Iron Man and then Sherlock Holmes.

 

I'm actually kinda interested in this. Does a conservatorship/extended stints in rehab actually have an effect on how much a celebrity makes afterwards? whoahhhhhhh guise there actually might be something here :omg2:

 

EDIT: Another thing, thinking about the Great Depression here in America: alot of New Deal programs (Social Security, Medicare etc.) that helped cushion the Depression are thought by some to have also made it longer. I'm thinking: some think the conservatorship saved Brit, but seeing how long it's lasted, has it done more harm than good? Has the artistic squelching and confinement of Brit's last three proects (ESPECIALLY BJ OMG) offset the potential bad news lawsuits would've done to her wealth & career?

 

 

[Maria Spears]

Exactly, mental illness isn't rational.

It's so frustrating to see people comment on here: "Ohh, she'll never do anything to risk losing her boys again" or "Ohh, she's learned her lesson and will never put herself in bad situations again." Bullshit. They obviously don't realize that all it takes is one day of skipping your meds, for whatever reason, and feeling fine and thinking you're "cured." You think you don't need medication anymore. Or you'll take your meds when you feel bad, which makes them completely useless. You start to spiral and don't even realize it. Rational thinking goes out the window at that point. It's happened to me, I've seen it happen to a few close family members. It's a day-to-day struggle.

I'm not saying Britney deserves to be in the conservatorship forever. I have no idea what's going on with her or what her life is like behind closed doors; nobody does. Which is why it's so strange some people don't trust Jamie or say some incredibly hurtful things about him like he's nobody of importance to Britney, not her own father. I also want to see Britney free from the conservatorship one day. I do think she'd be fine on her own.

I know. I have mixed feelings because we don't know what its going on. Some people say shes Bipolar but then she went to rehab and her parents put a restraining order against Lufti for secretly drugging her so some of her public "bipolar simptoms" can be for the side effects of different drugs. Maybe something is going on tho because they extended the c-ship.

I am very grateful for Jamie, her mom and Larry. In 2007 when all the disaster happened she didn't have a management team, PR rep, she didn't have a relationship with her parents.. And she was incredibly alone. Only bad people for her and papparazzi (she had a love-hate relationship with them.. Talking with them and driving around LA with them for no reason). And i do think that if she had a good team of people as she had before most of the things that happened could have been avoided.

But i think Britney's bigger issue wasnt drugs, alcohol or any of those things.. I think it was depression. That 2 day long marriage, then meeting Kevin and asking him to marry her after a few months, kabbalah then back to her old religion, those sad letters she wrote including one about Jamie "sins of the father". I think her breakdown started in 2004 and she was doing all of those things looking for something that was missing in her life.

Whatever it is, i don't think she found it yet but she definetly seems to be on her way, she is so happy now.

[Far Beyond]

I looked up pop culture academic journals and I feel like I could easily write something. Considering I already have an associate's degree, it could actually look credible I have no idea how rigorous the examination process is (I've been involved in scientific journal publication as an undergrad and it's hella difficult, but that's for hard sciences, this would be more sociology), but looking at some of the titles and writing styles...

 

My idea would be to normalize the profit margins and yearly earnings of Brit/Paris/Lindsay/Amanda by taking the log and putting it over time and see if any trends emerge. Maybe even throw in Robert Downey, Jr. as another example of someone who careened outta control and who re-legitimized himself and is now the highest-paid Hollywood actor since kickstarting his career again on Iron Man and then Sherlock Holmes.

 

I'm actually kinda interested in this. Does a conservatorship/extended stints in rehab actually have an effect on how much a celebrity makes afterwards? whoahhhhhhh guise there actually might be something here :omg2:

 

EDIT: Another thing, thinking about the Great Depression here in America: alot of New Deal programs (Social Security, Medicare etc.) that helped cushion the Depression are thought by some to have also made it longer. I'm thinking: some think the conservatorship saved Brit, but seeing how long it's lasted, has it done more harm than good? Has the artistic squelching and confinement of Brit's last three proects (ESPECIALLY BJ OMG) offset the potential bad news lawsuits would've done to her wealth & career?

 

 

lol

 

so you're saying at the end there you'd do some sort of cost-benefit analysis type thingy to come up w a a specific data set that would be relevant to her earnings/success

 

I'm good all around w writing, research, and math/science. I am a bio major if that could help, but I have a fondness for literature, science, philosophy, history, as well.

 

If I get down on a Britney essay, I'd probably do some type of philosophical analysis or framework and get in depth w a real research project. A simple example, a feminist perspective, Freudian analysis, comparative essay on either historical or mythical figures, the psychology of fame...I actually have brainstormed ideas for essay topics about many subjects that interest me, including Britney. I'll find them and send them to you.

 

I also have some writings on Britney that I have saved, copy/pasted from some of my forum responses, or written up...kinda like I saw potential to polish and take it further in the future 

 

I'll letya know. A good idea is a good idea

[ValetGirls]

lol

 

so you're saying at the end there you'd do some sort of cost-benefit analysis type thingy to come up w a a specific data set that would be relevant to her earnings/success

 

I'm good all around w writing, research, and math/science. I am a bio major if that could help, but I have a fondness for literature, science, philosophy, history, as well.

 

If I get down on a Britney essay, I'd probably do some type of philosophical analysis or framework and get in depth w a real research project. A simple example, a feminist perspective, Freudian analysis, comparative essay on either historical or mythical figures, the psychology of fame...I actually have brainstormed ideas for essay topics about many subjects that interest me, including Britney. I'll find them and send them to you.

 

I also have some writings on Britney that I have saved, copy/pasted from some of my forum responses, or written up...kinda like I saw potential to polish and take it further in the future 

 

I'll letya know. A good idea is a good idea

 

Yeah, almost. Plot the trajectory of each of their careers nominally, log it to normalize (because Brit's earnings are meteoric compared to say, Amanda, but not as high as RDJ's salaries for movies) and account for differences in approach: did they go to rehab, and for how long/how many times? Did they enter into a conservatorship? And why are some so much faster? Brit took a few months between the depths of 2007-2008 and Dec. 2008 to score a #1 hit & album and tour, but it took RDJ eight years, but then found unimaginable career success with Iron Man/Sherlock Holmes/Tropic Thunder?

 

I could actually do this :gloria: I know what I'm starting this weekend

 

PS: Google Scholar "Britney Spears" and see how there's actually several peer-reviewed analyses of her fame, sexualization, and social media. It's actually quite fascinating

[Far Beyond]

Yeah, almost. Plot the trajectory of each of their careers nominally, log it to normalize (because Brit's earnings are meteoric compared to say, Amanda, but not as high as RDJ's salaries for movies) and account for differences in approach: did they go to rehab, and for how long/how many times? Did they enter into a conservatorship? And why are some so much faster? Brit took a few months between the depths of 2007-2008 and Dec. 2008 to score a #1 hit & album and tour, but it took RDJ eight years, but then found unimaginable career success with Iron Man/Sherlock Holmes/Tropic Thunder?

 

I could actually do this :gloria: I know what I'm starting this weekend

 

PS: Google Scholar "Britney Spears" and see how there's actually several peer-reviewed analyses of her fame, sexualization, and social media. It's actually quite fascinating

what would be your sources for the earnings though? It seems unreliable info is out there. And it would almost sure have to just be gross earnings, since it gets complicated (I assume to accurately know her net). Also, her investments, assets, expenditure, etc would seem relevant....I guess depending on precisely what your objective is. Also, would it not be nearly impossible, without being her actual accountant to know what she is worth...like, for example royalties, endorsements, etc? 

 

I would assume it'd be difficult to find out all the royalties, endorsement, bonus checks that roll in...especially if there are low key deals that we aren't aware of. 

 

Idk tbh. You probably know this type of stuff better than I do. I will definitely check some databases for Academic papers, esp to get ideas and to see where they got their data.

 

lol love it...but seriously all of this is a good idea to brainstorm. It may be unique too and could offer something  useful for your creative portfolio